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FREEDGUY
Orange Level Access Joined: 15 Apr 2017 Location: South West Mich Points: 5391 |
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Must be a "THERE" thing ? There's probably GOBS of non-lumber building products ;nails/screws, door/window hardware on that ship being held ransom from the Canal ordeal . JMO
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steve(ill)
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OH BOY.... Your going to get an ear-full now Grayray !!
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DMiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 29483 |
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What freegas fails to understand the ship can be held for damages, the cargo cannot as is owned by someone else and was never abandoned to be considered salvage score.
Are reports on other forums that the ship is being off loaded to other carriers. As to what I noted, IE lumber, steel form materials as studs or structural steel as in Red Iron buildings. Still several US manufacturers(for now) producing higher quality hardware just at limited levels due to employee shortage. |
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FREEDGUY
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Please post that the "CARGO" can NOT be held !! Are the Egyptians allowing off loads ?? I'm guessing NOT !! PLEASE don't link YOU TUBE BS reports !!
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FREEDGUY
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Gas was $2.78 today at a handful of stations, $2.88 + at the majority of places. E 85 is $2.72 locally .
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DMiller
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Look it up for yourself. Mr Great Giant Brainless.
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FREEDGUY
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Look it up for yourself. Mr Great Giant Brainless. I have since your last post on this topic "looked it up" along with several other co-workers/friends. There's NO definitive answer that any of us can find . I'm sticking to the cargo is still on board
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DMiller
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Take a trip and find out, we need the peace on here returned.
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DMiller
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KEY Point is the Ever Given was NEVER Abandoned, it was NEVER in need of "Salvage" as in NON Powered or needing to be towed INTO a port as it was In One. THAT in and of itself removes the "Salvors Clause" of ownership of commodities aboard. Next Up, the "SHIP" and Crew made the damage to the Canal NOT the CARGO where the cargo remains personal property NOT of the Shipping line but Contract customers using transport. Finally there are plans underway to remove the containers to OTHER ships to send the materials on to "EUROPE", never intended for US Consumers. Freegass needs more beer as evidently has NOT the capability to research ANYTHING.
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steve(ill)
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The ship is anchored in the middle of the lake.. I doubt it will be allowed to DOCK and the cargo removed.. Wishful thinking... And removal of the CANS setting in the middle of the lake is next to IMPOSSIBLE.......
They will eventually work out a deal on the $$$ that the ship owes Egypt and then the ship can continue on its way.. Possibly the CAN owners will chip in on the $$$ as they now have SKIN IN THE GAME if they want their cargo back.
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DMiller
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Not hard to swing conex boxes at sea anymore
Many Ships have there own cranes to move them where those as the Ever Given rely on dock side cranes can still be off loaded by another ship. |
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Tbone95
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Seems after all, even though those ships are huge and carry enormous amounts of cargo, that it's still a drop in the bucket compared to the goods that move through the world on a regular basis. By this time, the ripple has been more less dissipated. Just my thought.
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ACinSC
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Paid $2.77 for regular this morning .
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FREEDGUY
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$ 2.71 WITHOUT any type of "discount" here this afternoon
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FREEDGUY
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I "paid" $2.68 this morning at a local WALMART , saw $3.05 5 miles away and then $3.09 8 miles away . There's no rhyme or reason for this IMO
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steve(ill)
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OH... there IS a reason... just no rhyme !!
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FREEDGUY
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I'm just posting #'s that I saw today .
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DMiller
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A few discount stations around here were selling low cost gas, then the repairs began, buying sludge bottoms fuel at bargain pricing where fuel pumps, fuel filters and other detracting issues erupted, local garages enjoy that added income but the patrons don't.
Then the other shoe began the drop, many of the discount stations are hanging signage now as to CLOSING, due to high liability costs(BAD Gas) and uncertainty in fuels expenses, a few have older inground tanks that are past due for sampling and surrounding soil testing for leakage. They are being filled with water as the stations close to keep them from floating out.
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DaveKamp
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Apr 2010 Location: LeClaire, Ia Points: 5637 |
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$4.48 at the gas dock yesterday. Won't be much boating this year. Fortunately, commercial fisherman all buy their fuel at street pumps.
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Ten Amendments, Ten Commandments, and one Golden Rule solve most every problem. Citrus hand-cleaner with Pumice does the rest.
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Ray54
Orange Level Access Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Location: Paso Robles, Ca Points: 4344 |
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Not that bad DaveK I payed 4.10 for 87 octane yesterday but the 91 was 4.46, diesel 4.25. An this is one of the low cost places, easy to spend 50 cents to a dollar more out on the hiway.
A real rhyme and reason for the extra $ over fly over country is CARBON TAX. As well as having to keep up with the east coast rip off.
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FREEDGUY
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I just paid $2.809 at a local Walmart this evening
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steve(ill)
Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: illinois Points: 77708 |
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$3.20 in western Illinois last weekend.
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FREEDGUY
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Even the Walmart was $2.98 last weekend "here" , IMO, gouging at it's best
Thanks for the chart Edited by FREEDGUY - 03 Jun 2021 at 6:29pm |
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FREEDGUY
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Even the Walmarts hit $3.099 this past weekend, but have since came down to $2.929 this morning . It's not a lot, but I'm going to fill up tomorrow morning .
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jaybmiller
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still cheaper than here... $1.25/l to 1.34/l ,so $4.75- $5.05 cdn $ per US G it goes up and down about 40 cents per gallon a few times a day so time it right you can save a LOT of cash....
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Ray54
Orange Level Access Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Location: Paso Robles, Ca Points: 4344 |
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Nice to know the oil companies are not taking advantage of me. I payed 4.09 on the weekend. But I am paying a dollar a gal to save the world in carbon tax on top all the other taxes. And it goes up the 1st of July.
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Clay
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Those who came up with and voted for the Carbon Tax can suck the business end of a honey wagon hose.
Edited by Clay - 09 Jun 2021 at 9:57pm |
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FREEDGUY
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MOVE !!!!
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FREEDGUY
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I paid $2.849 this afternoon at the local Walmart, the BP across the street was $2.869 , this is for regular
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DiyDave
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Doesn't matter, no matter where you move, idiots will follow, gain (or feign) the majority, and change the laws...
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