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Xtunnelman 
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 Topic: Galion motor grader with an allis chalmers diesel
Posted: 04 Oct 2018 at 5:18am |
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I recently purchased a galion motor grader, with an allis chalmers 4 cyl diesel engine. I was wondering if this was repowered. No data tag on engine or grader, maybe someone knows where to look.
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ACjack
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Posted: 04 Oct 2018 at 9:00am |
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There should be a metal tag on the lefthand side of the engine. Stamped on it will be the series number such as D-2200 or D-262 ect; the engine catalog number which describes how the engine is configured (parts & subassemblys used in its build and finally the engine serial number.
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Xtunnelman
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Posted: 05 Oct 2018 at 8:02am |
I looked at the motor yesterday but there is no nameplate, there is a rectangular flat spot with two brads sticking out which is probably where it was originally located. I have been shrinking up the photos to get them under the 2mb window. On the right side of the engine next to the oil fill spout is where, I believe, the name plate was originally located.I sent a picture of the left side too. The engine runs fine, I would just like to know which motor it is in case I do have problems. 
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CAL(KS)
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Posted: 05 Oct 2018 at 8:27am |
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looks like the 200 inch motor. 2 cylinders less than the 301. It was used in the 6000 tractors and F2 combine
Edited by CAL(KS) - 05 Oct 2018 at 8:28am
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Xtunnelman
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Posted: 05 Oct 2018 at 9:48am |
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Thanks for the information. Did you ever hear of an AC motor in a Galion motor grader?
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CAL(KS)
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Posted: 05 Oct 2018 at 10:16am |
i have not, but i have only been around since 1980. 
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Posted: 05 Oct 2018 at 3:59pm |
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My guess is that it has been re-powered. Without the picture I would have thought maybe a 344 cu. in. but with a 200 cu. in. it will be under powered for what that grader was intended to do. It will still do a fine job regrading driveways etc but when you start pushing with the blade full of dirt or gravel in front of it you will soon notice the power that is missing.
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Posted: 05 Oct 2018 at 7:49pm |
 Xtunnelman wrote:
I looked at the motor yesterday but there is no nameplate, there is a rectangular flat spot with two brads sticking out which is probably where it was originally located. I have been shrinking up the photos to get them under the 2mb window. On the right side of the engine next to the oil fill spout is where, I believe, the name plate was originally located.I sent a picture of the left side too. The engine runs fine, I would just like to know which motor it is in case I do have problems. |
The raised pad on the block just under the cylinder head behind the the alternator is where the engine ID plate was mounted. It was attached with 4 “brass” hard rivets. Sometime in the late 70’s they started to use a “soft” expansion rivet that was “set “ by driving in a small center pin.
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Posted: 05 Oct 2018 at 8:06pm |
CAL(KS) wrote:
looks like the 200 inch motor. 2 cylinders less than the 301. It was used in the 6000 tractors and F2 combine
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Looks like it’s a D-2200. You can somewhat narrow down what it came out of. If there is no evidence of Orange paint on it then you can rule out that in came from a combine. All combine engines shipped from the Harvey Engine plant were painted orange.
Edited by ACjack - 05 Oct 2018 at 8:08pm
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SteveM C/IL
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Posted: 11 Oct 2018 at 9:14am |
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Our township once had a Gallion grader which used a 426 Allis engine so it's no stretch to imagine you have original engine.
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DMiller
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Posted: 11 Oct 2018 at 9:37am |
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Galion used almost ANY engine they could buy, saw them with Gas or Diesel IH, Cummins, Hercules and other engines, cannot say ever saw a AC in one but why not?
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Eric B
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Posted: 11 Oct 2018 at 4:12pm |
SteveM C/IL wrote:
Our township once had a Gallion grader which used a 426 Allis engine so it's no stretch to imagine you have original engine. |
The Allis 426 would have ample power as they were rated at 150 to 210 HP in industrial applications (the ones I recall). Xtunnelman doesn't give a model or size on this Galion but if it has tandems with at least 13.00 x 24 tires and at least a 13 to 14' mouldboard then 100 to 200 HP would be needed. The 200 cubic inch is only around 50 HP. There may be small Galion graders that I don't know about.
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Ian Beale
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Posted: 11 Oct 2018 at 4:18pm |
Eric
A common small Galion is a 503. I've heard of IH BTD8 and TD9B engines here in Oz.
Apparently the running gear is the same as a DD
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DonBC
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Posted: 11 Oct 2018 at 9:35pm |
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The Galion 503 used the same Clark trans axle as the AC D and DD graders so it wouldn't be a stretch to have an AC repower.
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Posted: 12 Oct 2018 at 8:40pm |
Ian Beale wrote:
Eric
A common small Galion is a 503. I've heard of IH BTD8 and TD9B engines here in Oz.
Apparently the running gear is the same as a DD |
Yes I can see that the 200 would work well if this is a 503 model. I had not known of the 503 until now. Thanks for educating me.
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