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Front wheel bearing tips on the WD?
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    Posted: 07 Apr 2019 at 9:52pm
Well, got the WDs fired up this weekend (I officially swear by using Stabil in the gas, btw), but now the winter project I never got to is staring me in the face... Installing the new front wheel bearings on the "wobbblier" one.

Also, I assume the "bearing spacer" must already be on the spindle, and I have to re-use it? As the kit comes with seven items, and I suspect that is not one of them (inner bearing and cup, outer bearing and cup, flat washer, cup washer, and seal).



Any other tips for cleaning stuff up or putting it all back together? I bought a bearing punch and a race and seal installer kit, so I hope I've got all the tools I need for this.

Also -- The best way to pack the new bearings with grease? I see it says don't pack the "center" with grease. I take it from reading the manual that the seal is supposed to go in dry, and not get greased up?
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GG,
 We are here for you!
I remember some of my first work on WD or WD45 tractors as a kid helping Dad on the farm was replacing front wheel bearings! He always had one or two sets on the dash of his old Ford pickups. We ran 4 tractors betwwen 2 farms 5 mailes apart. Lots of road miles! Also much field use amounted to lots of worn wheel bearings!
Yes the inner bearing spacer should be on the shaft. But if it is not you will need to get one!
Clean up: Roll of paper towels and your favorite grease cleaner upper!:)
BTY I have no clue how you might use the bearing punch and race and seal installer?? OK maybe for the outer race insertion. Never had to use any special tools for this job other than a large crescent and a pair of side cutters. Ok tapping the old race out with a drift.

Also advise to keep weight on the tire while you loosen the outside cap with a wrench or pipe wrench.

I grease the bearings by placing a gob of new grease in my palm and pressing the bearing into the grease repeatedly until it oozes out the top of the bearing. They do make fancy dancy bearing grease thing a ma bobs too.

Yea the felt seal can go in dry.

Your going to replace the outer races that are a light press fit into the wheel hub. You of course will need to remove the old ones. Make sure the hub is in good shape in these areas. I have seen some bad ones where the outer race pocket has been worn very bad.
If good, just clean up the hub and install the new outer races.

You Got this! Old Wobbly will be good as new! Unless the problem is in the vertical shaft!:)
Regards,
 Chris


 


Edited by Sugarmaker - 08 Apr 2019 at 8:16am
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Originally posted by Sugarmaker Sugarmaker wrote:

GG,
 
yea the felt seal can go in dry.

Regards,
 Chris

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Lots of good info, Sugarmaker........however the original A-C
operator's manual says "oil the seal with light oil".
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Brian,
 I was thinking that oiling this felt seal would not hurt as I wrote that. Thanks for confirming the correct way to install the seal. Makes sense. Probably helps keep the dirt out and it does have the hub rotating close to or on it,
Regards,
 Chris
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Theres a tool made for this , has about a 4 in plastic cone on each side , put the bearing in,thread it tight , pump the grease nipple full on top and bearing are full easy deal   
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Originally posted by DougG DougG wrote:

Theres a tool made for this , has about a 4 in plastic cone on each side , put the bearing in,thread it tight , pump the grease nipple full on top and bearing are full easy deal   

Doug, my late brother,  Doug G., worked as a mechanic and before he passed away gave me one of those tools....I think it was a bit older as it was all made out of steel.
Sadly, I have to say I've never even tried it. I think I will now when I have the opportunity.
Thanks for reminding me!
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i have been drilling and tapping and installing a zerk on my hubs when i have them off and cleaning and repacking then i can grease them with a grease gun 
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That extra zerk is a good idea too! 
I think my uncle had zerks in the screw on end caps.
Regards,
 Chris
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i have done the caps they are thin so i weld a 1/4 x 28 nut with the tig  for the zerk can thread in to  still would rather drill the hub while it is clean  but washing, inspecting  and packing wheel bearings every year is still the policy 
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Dad said they couldn't keep wheel brgs in the WC untill they hammerd the zerks and no one could pump dirt in with the grease....something to consider. Good greasing probably last 20yrs with average use.
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The Parts Catalog for WD and WD-45 states that the Flat Washer P/N 202105
and Spacer P/N 202106 are not used w/adjustable Front Axle.

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Thanks for all the hot tips guys! Got sidetracked by the weather and being out of town and other side projects. Since I have so much slop in the front bearings, I guess I should be careful that the spindle or the hubs are not wallered out or scored. Will report back with pictures once I finally get in there. Thanks as always!
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