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 Posted: 17 Dec 2012 at 9:16am |
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Poor pank...anything you dont understand, you throw under the bus. Whats so funny is that motor you posted pics or came from *newsflash* someone else. You bought it. You still arent capable of building your own.
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wi50
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Posted: 17 Dec 2012 at 9:16am |
 mlpankey wrote:
Rod B wrote:
This thread is epic. Asking Juder for help is the best idea pank has had. Marty had to explain how to get a 7" stroke to clear.
Did you get a ribbon for participation? You say you have been pulling ever since but yet can not post where or any results. At least you're consistant at around 90 feet behind the leader.
It's as fishey as your machine shop of which you avoide giveing us a phone number and physical adress.
It's clear that an overhead cam is over your head. Can we see some pictures of the billet rods you claim go on that 1.8" journal? With only a 6" stroke and that small of a journal no clearance work would be needed unless the rod was a total hack job or poor design. Why use such a bulkey rod?
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the 1.8 rod 6 inch stroke was a proven natpa winner .yes it is epic you see back then pullers got help from each other . today its just hackjobs on pulling sites showing mockups. never ran to know if they work or fail. the only mockup a crank with that bad of welds around here would get is how to turn it to fit in a scrap metal dumpster. Its nice to see that crank though now i know where the crank a mississiippi feloow had that looked that rough when shown on yt pullings forum came from he wouldnt say cause the guy told him he would give him his money back if he wouldnt name him and hurt his buisiness. |
OK, now you come on a public forum and accuse me of doing bad business practices to someone. I posted pictures of a crankshaft, I did not give any information on it........ you are a true POS!
Your lack of knowledge keeps showing. When welding a crank, the welds out over the original forgeing keep building up, of course on the ends they get ground down some during clean up in the welding process. Now it's nice to grind a little less untill the final balanceing is done. It gives the builder something to grind on to balance a crank.
Where the radius and crankpin are it is critical to have good clean welds. So you're lucky I took time to take some pictures, but here's another one of the crankpin...... It's dang nice work. When finish balanced and ground it will look like a true work of art. A good builder will do things in stages in order to keep the most amount of strength in a build. The parts need to get mocked up, taken apart, fit and then finished.
This crank was delivered to me to figure out connectiong rods for I requested it as I'm working on billet rods and want to test fit things for best clearance for another project. I will not say where it came from, or who's it is. It is verry nice work though. Your attempt to slander me pankey is useless.........
Now the critical areas here look great. (oops sorry pankey there's dust on the oil on the main)
I can't help it that someone in Miss bought a bad crank from someone else. The man in question is on these forums under the name of ( insert later)
He calls me and claims he should have never listened to that idiot (insert later) he got a bunch of bad advice, bad work and a wrecked his engine.
I'd hope a moderator takes care of our commando comeing on public forum makeing false accusations of me doing bad business on a project I had absolutly NOTHING to do with untill a guy calls me later complaning about bad service he got from.......
Edited by wi50 - 17 Dec 2012 at 9:48am
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Posted: 17 Dec 2012 at 12:03pm |
He didnt get the crank from me either it came from up your way and the welds look the same if your not doing it you should find someone else to do the cranks . Cause a 6.5 crank is running only on majority of weld and if its full of purosity then its not going to last .
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Posted: 17 Dec 2012 at 1:00pm |
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Didn't your close friend Kent dakin buy a big crank a while ago?
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Posted: 17 Dec 2012 at 1:55pm |
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2008 you remember seeing it on yt it was horrible looking .purosity all over it some funky attempt to counterweight it . terrible from the get go. Wished i could find that picture of it looks like it came from wisconsin to me. Both were customised to fit in a dumpster.
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Posted: 17 Dec 2012 at 4:11pm |
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wi50 i dont think your weld would pass a look test let alone a die penetrate or xray test
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Posted: 17 Dec 2012 at 4:32pm |
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Skimmin across this post has more drama than the houswifes of atlanta....
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Posted: 17 Dec 2012 at 5:33pm |
mlpankey wrote:
2008 you remember seeing it on yt it was horrible looking .purosity all over it some funky attempt to counterweight it . terrible from the get go. Wished i could find that picture of it looks like it came from wisconsin to me. Both were customised to fit in a dumpster. |
November 12 2008 on YTmag pulling forum there's a thread about a big crank for sale.
"$ still have stroker stuff for allis 226"
If I were good enough with the computer to post the link for you I would. It's pretty funny reading though. Maybe Ctucker or Butch is handy with their computer???
Ken called me several times in the past (fall of 2011) looking for some parts and advice. Someone on the internet had given him a bunch of bad advice and he had bought a bad crankshaft..........
Interesting what you find on other forums and who had what for sale.
Edited by wi50 - 17 Dec 2012 at 5:37pm
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Posted: 17 Dec 2012 at 7:51pm |
wi50 wrote:
mlpankey wrote:
2008 you remember seeing it on yt it was horrible looking .purosity all over it some funky attempt to counterweight it . terrible from the get go. Wished i could find that picture of it looks like it came from wisconsin to me. Both were customised to fit in a dumpster. |
November 12 2008 on YTmag pulling forum there's a thread about a big crank for sale.
"$ still have stroker stuff for allis 226"
If I were good enough with the computer to post the link for you I would. It's pretty funny reading though. Maybe Ctucker or Butch is handy with their computer???
Ken called me several times in the past (fall of 2011) looking for some parts and advice. Someone on the internet had given him a bunch of bad advice and he had bought a bad crankshaft..........
Interesting what you find on other forums and who had what for sale. |
So he purchased the crank from you wi and you asked him not to tell. Well thats about right I knew I recognised the purosity how do you feel about being the one that made him quit pulling all together after your advice and phone calls . maybe your cheap parts bragging isnt so cheap after all. As I recall he wanted to talk to you without me being on the forum cause i was saying that the crank was the worst piece of crap ever pictured and he should have purchased one of mine . If he had he would still be pulling .
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Posted: 17 Dec 2012 at 8:02pm |
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You're busted, Mitch! I should give kent a call...
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Posted: 17 Dec 2012 at 8:09pm |
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You're busted, Mitch! I should give kent a call... |
give him a call i sold two cranks one to a tom in ohio and another to a fellow in dandridge tn who drove down and picked it up . wi needs to learn how to run the crank welder that purosity in that crank kent purchased and the purosity in the crank in his picture is going to ruin him. The only thing kent ever purchased from me was a set of used arias pistons. I told him how to build the head with the part numbers i listed in a post on here and he ran the leroi rods on the wd45 milled pistons with the top milled down so close the the ring lands that after a couple of years the ring land pulled loose. Then came the stroker and it came out of wi and looks like it came from wi50s shop by his purosity filled crank pictures in my opinion.
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Posted: 17 Dec 2012 at 8:16pm |
And non of this has anything to do with answering the orriginal post of Panky wanting to offset the crankshaft. Once you get all that worked out Panky you can waste another 6 months forging an offset transmision input shaft.
Still ain't answered my question about flip flopping on the stroke issue.......
Somebody give this whinning child a diaper change and a bottle, it's way past his bedtime and he's trying to interupt an adult conversation.
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Posted: 17 Dec 2012 at 8:24pm |
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That is a flat out lie pankey. I never sold Ken (or Kent) anything. He called me because he was tired of your bad advice. He took your advice and wrecked his engine.
Absolutely every time I've sold parts to ANYONE weather from forums or not they have the option to return if they don't like it for some reason.
Heck I don't even collect money untill people get their things...... I ship them out with an invoice in the box and our good honest members alwayse send a check. It's not a business it's a hobby.
In searching the archives and talking to friends it turns out pankey hires everything done. Buys competitive engines and makes them non competitive. Then sells the junk left over. It's really odd that the timeing of his things for sale corespond with the timeing of someone getting bad parts.
What's even more odd is that I wasn't on any forums then......
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Posted: 17 Dec 2012 at 8:25pm |
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dave i am the one who runs stroke and makes the bottom end run the rpm the induction makes it run so you got confussed on that . Its the wi guys who believe they cant get stroke to turn rpms .Your right though obviously since he has purchased 500 inches for his puller he has figured out stroke will turn rpm cause now he has a purosity filled crank he ckaims is 6.5 inches pictured in a mockup.sorry you got confussed on whos who.
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Posted: 17 Dec 2012 at 8:31pm |
http://www.ytmag.com/cgi-bin/viewit.cgi?bd=pulling&th=107367 Wi, I beleive this is what you are looking for?? And if I'm correct, pank still thinks that you weld your cranks, but correct me if I'm wrong, you dont, some one else does, atleast that what I got outta your post, but him and his one friend cant seem to understand that? Oh and he also failed to understand the part where you didnt sell this feller a crank, but he didnt pay attention that day in kindergarden and doesnt know how to read...cuz from what I've read, he purchased the crank from someone else, not Wi. Pank, i would still like to know how you can put up such an arguement, but yet you have nothing to show for it, no running tractor, no videos, that any of us have seen anyway. We've all seen Wi50's tractor, seen videos, heck, I've even seen it pull in person, but why is there nothing of yours?? Really seems like you should take less time creating high school drama on here, and more time building your tractor.
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Posted: 17 Dec 2012 at 8:35pm |
LOL, that's about the line of babling I exspected. Not one answer to the question I posed. Just rambling on about what you want to talk about.
Now I'll admit I'm no expert on these types of heavy engine mods, but I can read BS as good as any. The way you put together your replies it looks like you need to lay off the moonshine. Your double talk is beginning to confuse yourself. Maybe that's what you've been doing in the shopis running a thump keg pulling engine. That I can see you wanting to keep a secret.
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Posted: 17 Dec 2012 at 8:38pm |
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I run stroke for the cubic inches it gives does that answere your question
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Posted: 17 Dec 2012 at 8:41pm |
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But at least when he's on the computer Carl he's not wrecking parts. Us real pullers need to scrounge all the good parts we can.
Yeah' I just get cranks done in town. The one in the pic came from out of state from a guy Gary Baker has used.........and does a lot of crank work for pro-stocks. I've got a local guy by Luck makeing the nicest billet rods. Sometime when pankey cools down or gets banned I'll post some information on them.
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Posted: 17 Dec 2012 at 8:44pm |
Carl(NWWI) wrote:
http://www.ytmag.com/cgi-bin/viewit.cgi?bd=pulling&th=107367
Wi, I beleive this is what you are looking for??
And if I'm correct, pank still thinks that you weld your cranks, but correct me if I'm wrong, you dont, some one else does, atleast that what I got outta your post, but him and his one friend cant seem to understand that?
Oh and he also failed to understand the part where you didnt sell this feller a crank, but he didnt pay attention that day in kindergarden and doesnt know how to read...cuz from what I've read, he purchased the crank from someone else, not Wi.
Pank, i would still like to know how you can put up such an arguement, but yet you have nothing to show for it, no running tractor, no videos, that any of us have seen anyway. We've all seen Wi50's tractor, seen videos, heck, I've even seen it pull in person, but why is there nothing of yours?? Really seems like you should take less time creating high school drama on here, and more time building your tractor.
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that would be the one where mquoid and wi were acting like someone they werent and bryant garland and ray at extreme tractor showed me how to track ip addresses. this tv show started back on yt and followed me to here . check when wi become a member on this site . way after i . even andy unstylish changed his to unstylish because people acting on yt as someone else and posting nonsense
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Posted: 17 Dec 2012 at 8:50pm |
wi50 wrote:
But at least when he's on the computer Carl he's not wrecking parts. Us real pullers need to scrounge all the good parts we can.
Yeah' I just get cranks done in town. The one in the pic came from out of state from a guy Gary Baker has used.........and does a lot of crank work for pro-stocks. I've got a local guy by Luck makeing the nicest billet rods. Sometime when pankey cools down or gets banned I'll post some information on them. |
Lol. Guess I'm catching on pretty quick, but in the insane assylum it sometimes takes ppl a while to comprehend what they read, which we have pretty good proof of. True though, whens he's on here he's not hurting innoscent bystanders with rod caps, cam lobes, and crank journals when she comes flying apart. Wi doesnt usually have time for all this nonsense too from what i noticed, ppl i know have known him since tech school, he's only gotten smarter since then, has a very successful farming operation, and seems to be building high powered pullers that do very well. pank, you still ignored my response. why waste your time on here if theres no proof??????
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Posted: 17 Dec 2012 at 9:16pm |
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andy knows what i am talking about he also down deep knows his heckling stopped when he started doing buisness with the hecklers. and never hurt anyone never had any flying parts either.
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Posted: 17 Dec 2012 at 10:17pm |
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So let's get this straight.
Pank has a question on how to get a 7" stroke in the 226 engine and I show and tell how to do make 6.5" fit and show that there's clearance for 7" like he wanted to do by running the rod a certain way with a verry specific cap angle.
He crys and posts lies an tries to slander about me.
Makes sense to me. Now that he has the necessary information he could order the parts and do it for himself. He could build a puller and show us...... that was his original intentions right?
We'll never see it.
As for me, I'll see some of you in Gordyville and hopefully Murfreesboro where real people actually pull. Or at least have a few drinks and socialize laughing at people like pank.
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Posted: 17 Dec 2012 at 10:53pm |
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Well all we can do is try to help, and whatever happens happens, best thing to do is try to ignore it, even though its hard.
Maybe ill see ya down there. Im going as well
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Posted: 17 Dec 2012 at 11:12pm |
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I run stroke for the cubic inches it gives does that answere your question |
No, it doesn't answer my question. Your other argument, thread was you didn't need or want added stroke as per the timing of the distance traveled increased with stroke and that you'd rather turn RPM's to add power. Now you want massive stroke. So is this your way of admitting you were wrong in the earlier post or are you posting just to start an argument. Either way your succeeding in not building anything to pull.
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Posted: 18 Dec 2012 at 6:31am |
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again I dont know what your talking about .I have always run stroke and always been a activist for stroke . With statements like no replacement for displacement . etc.
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Posted: 18 Dec 2012 at 11:24am |
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Pank, Wi has had you at every turn. You were the guru until he showed up out of nowhere. Now you are just stuck acting like the kid who lost a pecker measuring contest. I changed my s/n a few years back on YT because I got sick of people cluttering up my *serious* posts, ie, when my friends wife passed away. NOT BECAUSE of any heckling. I fail to see where you have a grudge against Marty. I met him, he helped me out alot, machines some awsome stuff for me , and has been the BEST person I have ever met to bounce ideas off of. Plus my tractor makes about 30% MORE POWER than previously. Thats dyno proven, too. You have trashed everything he has ever done or said. The entire time, *gasp* you blew up your motor, sold a few $hit cranks, and tried to pass off Tarbills motor as your own work. Now, you have been reduced to outright lying about others actions, and running your mouth about things you obviously have no idea about. The guys who took your advice would like to shoot you, the guy who bought one of your cranks called me up one night a few years ago madder than hell. Im not sure how much you are paying this mgburchard to stick up for you, but its not enough. You have nothing left...
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Posted: 18 Dec 2012 at 1:25pm |
I hate the drama, but I do not like someone trying to bash me. Expecially when pankey claims that I sold a bad crankshaft (an outright lie) to someone who I only talked to and never had any monetary dealings with.
I was looking around YT when I had a few minutes trying to find pictures of the bad crank. They been posted there, I stumbled across this.
Does this crank look like a hack job or what? 
This pic is from the YTmag pulling forum. Posted by none other than our commando himself allong with some really cobbled up other junk parts. Some thread about a high school physics and the machinist.....pankey trying to pass this thing as his allong with some hack job of balanceing a front pulley.
I suppose we'll get some lame excuses and probably some trick photography excuses (I left it nice and big didn't I) . If I were handy with the puter I'd post a link. But unfortunatly I'm barely able to copy it and paste it on my phone.
On to more spankey drama as the saga continues. But I'd hope that none of you fellas think that I'd do any shady dealings. I've got a good business to run, and I like haveing a good reputation with people.
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Posted: 18 Dec 2012 at 3:00pm |
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Nope i never used that crank ever because it was a hack job. It didnt have any visible purpsity though unlike yours your using from whoever do.
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Posted: 18 Dec 2012 at 5:33pm |
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Busted. Bless the poor sucker who bought it.
I have requested several times the name, phone number and physical adress of your shop. It's confuseing as to why you say the stroker business is good but yet claim to have sold only 2 cranks and have old friends now unhappy with you.
Something smells fowl in dixie.
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Posted: 18 Dec 2012 at 7:28pm |
Rod B wrote:
Busted. Bless the poor sucker who bought it.
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Must be one of those "cast forgings" he earlier mentioned that are otherwise unknown in the engine world,, or any other.
Next time you might try rod other than 6013?
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