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    Posted: 10 Oct 2012 at 9:06pm
I headed out this afternoon to pick up a new ground cable for the D17 today and was surprised to realize I could only find these cheap flimsy looking cables. The post connection is really thin and it is 4 guage. I always used to buy 2 guage with the nice heavy post connectors but as mentioned I could not find those. The only thing I kind of like about the one I bought today is that it is flat on the bottom of the connector which I realized is making contact with the bottom of the battery post as well as the rest of the post.
My question is being a positive ground do you think it will make any differance having the new cable 4 guage and the old one (which is still good) 2 guage? my guess is that it will be fine but I'm just curious what your thoughts are.
Also do you guys know what I'm talking about with these new flimsy cables? when did these come out? I haven't payed that much attention because I have not needed any for a long time.  Thanks!  
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If you D17 is 12 volt, the cable will be ok, But if it is 6 volt, then the cable is too light.
If it is set up as on my D15, it is just a short cable. LOL Bob
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Originally posted by Chalmersbob Chalmersbob wrote:

If you D17 is 12 volt, the cable will be ok, But if it is 6 volt, then the cable is too light.
If it is set up as on my D15, it is just a short cable. LOL Bob
It is indeed 12 volt. And you are correct it is a very short little cable. I would bet it's only about 7 inches. Thank you Bob!    Dennis.
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we still use 2 ga cables at work...get them at napa...unless we hadpicked up a bunch before they switched
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Originally posted by Mrgoodwrench Mrgoodwrench wrote:

we still use 2 ga cables at work...get them at napa...unless we hadpicked up a bunch before they switched
I'll give Napa a try Goodwrench. I'd like to get some now before I can't find them at all anymore. It sure seems like that's the way it's headed because I went to two stores today and both had the same flimsy ones. Thank you Sir!
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Steve at B&B Custom circuits (an advertiser on this site) has any battery cable you want. He makes them himself.Tongue
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I've found them in stock at napa up to 00 at least.

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I buy bulk battery cable, usually 2 or 0 gauge and solder on battery ends and make my own.
Better to have 2 heavy a cable than too light
 
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Soldered ends to multi stranded cable do not achieve the best longevity. A good solder job will have solder wicked between the strands beyond the connection device which makes the cable stiff and it will break from bending and vibration. A crimped connection will last longer with vibration and motion because its more flexible without the solder wicked up the strands. A bad crimp will make a bad cable though.

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Originally posted by Gerald J. Gerald J. wrote:

Soldered ends to multi stranded cable do not achieve the best longevity. A good solder job will have solder wicked between the strands beyond the connection device which makes the cable stiff and it will break from bending and vibration. A crimped connection will last longer with vibration and motion because its more flexible without the solder wicked up the strands. A bad crimp will make a bad cable though.

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Made 100's of my own cables, one has yet to fail me.
 
Have had crimmped garbage bought from local auto parts come apart.
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When looking for a heavier cable - go to a truck parts house - least in most cases the trucking industry still uses a cable that will carry high amp load.
 On my equipment i have made my own cables out of welding cable , getting replacement ends that crimp on - after crimping I do solder them also and have had no problems with them breaking . A heavy brass post connection that is cadmium plated resists corrosion also. 
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Originally posted by Coke-in-MN Coke-in-MN wrote:

When looking for a heavier cable - go to a truck parts house - least in most cases the trucking industry still uses a cable that will carry high amp load.
 On my equipment i have made my own cables out of welding cable , getting replacement ends that crimp on - after crimping I do solder them also and have had no problems with them breaking . A heavy brass post connection that is cadmium plated resists corrosion also. 
Excellent thought Coke! There is a truck parts house in the next town too! I might just take a ride over there.     Dennis.
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2/0 and 4/0 are common in the truck world
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