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shameless (ne)
Orange Level Joined: 08 Jul 2016 Location: nebraska Points: 7463 |
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Posted: 24 Aug 2016 at 2:38am |
when I see mulberry trees growing, I wait til they is about 5 inches in diameter, then cut them. it's for the firewood thing. just big nuff, and don't hafta split it! and round firewood burns longer than split firewood!
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Dan73
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Well if you put the laundry under one you got what you deserve for not thinking through where you put it.... as to the lawn well yes it does make a mess of that and the bird dropping make an extra special mess out of your car.
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dawntreader74
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when you cut one down' grind the stump out' thin your over with it.
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DiyDave
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But for lawns, and laundry on a line, underneath one, not so much...
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shameless (ne)
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the mulberries also have good health benefits to people!
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CTuckerNWIL
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: NW Illinois Points: 22810 |
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Dave, I hope you don't waste that stuff by painting the WHOLE 10 inchs It only needs painted around the growth ring just below the bark.
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Dan73
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That is what I was thinking they make great jelly. Now that stinking suemack that I got all over the place I need to get some good chemicals to kill that crap. |
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DaveKamp
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Apr 2010 Location: LeClaire, Ia Points: 5644 |
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The variety of Mullberry trees around here, bulldozers won't tear them down in any way that will stop them from sprouting everywhere else. If you don't take action to dry out the roots, they're just gonna sprout everywhere that there's roots.
As for chemicals, I've had good luck cutting the smaller appearances (under say... 10" diameter) and paint the top of the stump with TORDON RTU, and that seems to work well. |
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Ten Amendments, Ten Commandments, and one Golden Rule solve most every problem. Citrus hand-cleaner with Pumice does the rest.
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shameless (ne)
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I use the tree puller Coke's son made for me, but if I can't get back into the tree with my 7010, i'll cut it down with a chain saw and spray tordon over the whole stump. oh...and if you use tordon, throw the little nozzle away they attatch to the bottle, that wastes to much of it. get a hand spray bottle and use that. old windex sprayers works well. I use tordon, because it works on all trees, and because it's readily available here compared to the other chemicals listed that work too! in the spring, if you don't have time to cut a lot before planting, if you walk or drive along the edge of the field and cut off a branch that's sticking out into the field, spray that where you cut it off the main tree, by late summer/fall that tree will be dead. mulberry is great firewood if you heat with wood. and if you do woodworking, mulberry makes really pretty coffee table tops!
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DIESEL
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I work for a power company here in Nebraska an REA. We fight all types of trees that's the nature of the job, we spray all of our stumps with Pathfinder 2. It works very well and it will kill all types of trees without cutting them off, you just spray around the trunk at the base of the tree. It will even kill eastern red cedars if you spray the whole tree.
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DiyDave
Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Gambrills, MD Points: 50664 |
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Garlon/tordon are the same chemical, more or less. Won't kill grass, but may kill other trees, nearby, if they have grafts (root interfaces) with the mulberry. When in doubt, always follow the directions, on the label. By the way, post is 4 years old, any input from the OP, on success or failure?
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EPALLIS
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Mulberry trees are not that evil. Don't kill them all....
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mdm1
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Onalaska, WI Points: 2600 |
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If you have one call your county forester. I know people will think differently but I have nothing but good luck dealing with ours. They get paid to help you out and do enjoy it. They can give the right advice.
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Everything is impossible until someone does it! WD45-trip loader 1947 c w/woods belly mower, 1939 B, #3 sickle mower 1944 B, 2 1948 G's. Misc other equipment that my wife calls JUNK!
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j.w.freck
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remedy brush killer.....
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CTuckerNWIL
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Mulberry don't care if you doze it out. If one little piece of a root is left behind, and there are ALWAYS pieces left, it will grow a bush from every piece. Killing it with Tordon can get rid you of that.
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CAL(KS)
Orange Level Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Location: Chapman, KS Points: 3746 |
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Heck my 16 does the job and no special permit
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CrestonM
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You guys are overthinking this, what with chemicals and all. Just buy yourself a HD-41 dozer, and push 'em all out! Problem solved! Lol
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Ted J
Orange Level Joined: 05 Jul 2010 Location: La Crosse, WI Points: 18728 |
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I have the best luck getting rid of them (and others) by putting hot coals from the grill on em when I am done cooking. Just pour on top and they will get the job done. Just takes time.
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Allis dave
Orange Level Joined: 10 May 2012 Location: Northern IN Points: 2857 |
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If someone actually finds a way to kill those things they'll be millionaire, and I'll want to see that solution in the knowledge base!! LOL
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DocUSMC
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Of the above chemicals, do any kill the saplings but will not kill grass. I have cut down a large mulberry tree but cant seem to control the saplings. Any help will do.
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Dwayne TX
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I'll cast another vote for Remedy, mixed with diesel. Must be a Texas thing - I've used it at label strength on mesquites, cat claw, and salt cedar. Used it on prickly pear, even though our county agent said it won't work. Told him not to say that too loud because I didn't want the pear to hear him and come back to life.
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TexasAllis
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I use Remedy on mesquites just like Tim, kills them dead. If it kills a mesquite it will kill anything.
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TimNearFortWorth
Orange Level Joined: 12 Dec 2009 Points: 2014 |
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Good topic as we can all pick up on some possible solutions with our own growth issues.
I use Remedy, at the recommended mix, it takes care of 90% of the Mesquite sprouts that reappeared after (somebody?) thought they could just drive over them and grind em up with the cutter. Learned to soak them real good along the trunk and leaves, plus hitting the small stump as soon as it is cut off (30 days after intially traeting).
Larger trees left me wondering as i had been pulling out various types with the 190XT, catching them within two days of a good rain during the winter months so the root ball would come up on most types. As i can only get them up by pulling up to 6-7" diameter trees, I took to using a wood bit on anything 6" or bigger diameter. Bore a 1" hole about 2-3" deep on an angle, then pour a 1/4 cup of straight Remedy in the hole (ASAP) drilled about 3-4' feet above ground. The leaves at the top of a 20-30' tree will start to turn in one week.
Hope to be able to start burn piles around larger trees treated after one year, plus maybe just pushing some 8-10" ones over with the loader after two years.
Worth noting is what I felt was a possible reaction to Remedy after seeing my rubber glove had a hole in it this spring while treating. Rinsed my hand and only remembered the Remedy after coming down with itching sensation all over and it has lasted for months now. Spoke with a number of specialists with DOW Chemical just this afternoon and was given assurances that Remedy will leave the human system after 2-5 days, after external exposure.
I'll keep using it for both trees/shrubs and general weed control.
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DaveKamp
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Apr 2010 Location: LeClaire, Ia Points: 5644 |
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This is one of the reasons why it's good to study a tool one uses, and try to develop an understanding of not so much how, but WHY it works, prior to using it. From a basic look, we see a splitting maul, and think that if it's sharp, and you swing it hard, it just splits wood... but we forget that it's heavy and blunt, and works because the wood has a natural weakness due to it's grain. Same goes for chemicals and biology... |
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Ten Amendments, Ten Commandments, and one Golden Rule solve most every problem. Citrus hand-cleaner with Pumice does the rest.
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Gerald J.
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Hamilton Co, IA Points: 5636 |
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I looked up the chemistry for Remedy, Crossbow, and Tordon.
Crossbow is 16.9% triclopyr and 34.4% 2-4D ester. Remedy is 61.6% triclopyr and some kerosene. MSDS doesn't say how much kerosene. Tordon is 10.2% picloram and 39.6% 2-4D. So you can make Crossbow from Remedy and 2-4D. The Remedy label says for stumps to apply 1 part Remedy to 3 parts oil to the cut stump. Otherwise for brush it suggests a low rate for mulberry, but for late season, like now a higher rate. My tenant attacked Sumac this year and it came back the first three attacks. He applied a quart of Crossbow one time to a quarter acre where it should have been 4 ounces to the acre. Killed the top, but it sprouted again from the roots. A second pass did the same thing twice. I finally talked him into cutting back to the label strength and now the patch's sprouts are dead. Hitting it with way too much herbicide killed the top before the herbicide could translocate to the roots. Hitting it with the rated rate did get translocated to the roots it now looks like. Crossbow is about $80 a gallon, Tordon about $32 a quart, and I found something like Remedy for $22 a quart and my tenant has plenty 2-4D to mix with the triclopyr to make a cross bow equivalent. Mulberry is NOT on the Crossbow or the Tordon label as a controlled species. Its on the Remedy label. Gerald J. |
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allischalmerguy
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Deep River, IA Points: 2865 |
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Thanks for the help...I have Mulberries to cut...smaller ones than Daves!
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patrickmull
Orange Level Joined: 11 Jan 2011 Location: Casey IL Points: 893 |
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we have a right of way cleaning outfit that uses tordon and used oil put it on as soon as you cut the tree
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WC7610
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Sioux City, IA Points: 764 |
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Have used Crossbow for several years on CRP and fence lines. This year I used Remedy, only because the Coop didn't have the Crossbow- they told me Remedy was a newer version of same thing.
Now is the perfect time to spray. To kill tree roots, spray in Sept when the leaves are starting to turn as the tree is taking nutrients to the roots and it will take the poison all the way. I've heard about the salt thing and rotting in one year- gotta try that.
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Ted in NE-OH
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I use 1:1 Roundup on grapevines that I cut in the woods. Seems to work.
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Dipstick In
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Wow! Dave, that's cool, now I gotta find a mulberry to play with! Maybe next year I wont have purple starling suprise all over the cars! Those things have more output than a goose does.
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