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    Posted: 14 Jun 2012 at 6:38pm
Allis Chalmers 426 7060 is running hot i have flushed the radiator out and it still runs hot fan belts are good and all..i have been running a jd 535 baler.any thoughts? Ask for more info if needed
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Make sure the foam on the sides of the radiator are in place and in good condition, and be sure to blow the radiator, hydraulic, transmission coolers, and AC condensers out backwards with high pressure air every 200-300 bales.
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Ok thanks how many coolers are supposed to be infort of the radiator?
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Thermostat? New radiator cap?
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Originally posted by captaindana captaindana wrote:

Thermostat? New radiator cap?
if its the cap is the engine actually over heating or?
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Best I can remember there is either 2 or 3 depending on the transmission
 
1, hydro oil cooler
2, A/C condenser
3, Power Shift Trans cooler if applicable
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I forgot to ask, do you have the pump turned up, and what is "hot" in temp numbers?
 
Have you used an infared thermometer or some other device to verify the temp shown on the gauge?
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Originally posted by Orange Blood Orange Blood wrote:



I forgot to ask, do you have the pump turned up, and what is "hot" in temp numbers?
 
Have you used an infared thermometer or some other device to verify the temp shown on the gauge?
its dynoed at 167 im pretty sure its a combine engine because the sloped manifold. And the gage started going "Crazy" back and forth but at idel it will give an accurate reading and when it started to steam at the cap i ideld it down and it read 230 unfortunately
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My powershift has 3 coolers and it does get loaded up with hay chaff to point it will warm up.
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Well I don't think you have hurt anything yet, so long as you take the load off, and let it cool, when it gets that hot.  I think you need to find the fault in the wiring, sounds like you have a wire loose between the gauge and the sending unit, or possible rubbing a bare spot in somewhere.
All of the suggestions are good ones, double check your foam seal, and don't only blow out, but when the engine is cool, wash out the rad and cooler with a garden hose, and a pressure gun, not a pressure washer, that way you won't bend the fins.  The coolers will get plugged as well, they also need blown and washed out.  After that, run the beast up to temp, feel the radiator in front to see if the temp at the top and bottom, are drastically different, slightly defferent, mostly cold, or mostly hot.  Once you get that done, you may want to consider flushing the system, and putting in a new thermostat, one that you check in a pan of water on the stove before installing.
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Thanks for all the help its greatly appreciated
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There are two thermostats in this I beleave, might be one stuck, 7030 did this, worked ok on light load but as soon as harder pull got hot right away.
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Have the rad. rodded out on the inside. Flushing out don't do much for a pluged rad. When the tubes get coated with crud keeps the heat from getting out to fins to tranfer heat.   MACK
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my 7010 heated up the other day too...blew the juice out of the cap...went and got a new thermostat for it, thought i'd try that...haven't taken it apart yet, but the one they gave me is a little dinky thing! it's smaller than what i have ina pickup or car!  guess i'll find out when it take it apart. it's the orgiginal thermostat!
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Takes TWO thermostats.
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