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70 series slat bottom 394 ??

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    Posted: 27 Sep 2022 at 12:16pm
Originally posted by Allis dave Allis dave wrote:

Good video, That new plow will be a lot better than the pull type. Did anyone catch the bi-plane at the last second??

I saw it. Pretty cool. Wondering if the same plane that buzzed an auction I was at last year.
There is one that flies around my house on nice days but don’t know if the same one . Think not
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Glad to hear it, Doc!!
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There's another video of a pass I made that day with an 8-bottom plow being (slowly) pulled by a steam tractor in the background. Didn't take too long to figure out who was getting the most done per hr.
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Good video, That new plow will be a lot better than the pull type. Did anyone catch the bi-plane at the last second??
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I have no fluid in the rear tires because it is a play toy and I tractor ride it probably 400 miles every summer, so it makes for less wear on the tires and easier to haul.  The weights hanging from the belly only make up for what fluid would be, about 900 pounds.
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Makes me want a WD45.  Wish my Dad had never traded off the WD Diesel.
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Try this exactly as written:  Allis Chalmers Wd45 plowing, ac wd plowing, ac wd45 plowing           on u-tube. This video is from 2018 pulling my 3 x 14's pull type plow.
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Do you have a picture of this WD45 that you would post to top off this thread!

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Originally posted by DrAllis DrAllis wrote:

I've had a very productive 24 hrs !! Last night after work, in ONE hour, I had all four threaded joints on the lifting links apart and anti-seized back together. Never used the torch on one joint !!  Today, I picked up three new plow shares from Kenny L, got them installed and spent the next three hours with a 9 inch wire brush on my DeWalt grinder polishing the many years of rust off each plow bottom and cover boards. All three rolling coulters took grease !!!  Got to find a 14 inch car tire for the depth wheel and I am ready to go plowing on Oct 15th  !!!  Thanks, Kenny L for parting with the plow shares  !!!! Looking forward to the sound of WD-45 Power Crater pistons talking thru a Nelson muffler, pulling a plow just exactly like the one my Dad bought new when I was 13 !!!!

  Doc Will need pictures of the plow day, I'm glad that I had what you need and thanks for the advice on the D-15 and as always good to visit with you. 


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Dr Allis, getting the adjustments freed up is a miracle in itself. I did get the adjustable link and coulter freed up on my 61 plow yesterday. Spent the most of the day doing it. Didn't use the torch either. Now to the beaming screw! Good Luck on plow day! Tracy
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Great news Doc!! Have a good time flipping dirt upside down.
It's the color tractor my grandpa had!
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I've had a very productive 24 hrs !! Last night after work, in ONE hour, I had all four threaded joints on the lifting links apart and anti-seized back together. Never used the torch on one joint !!  Today, I picked up three new plow shares from Kenny L, got them installed and spent the next three hours with a 9 inch wire brush on my DeWalt grinder polishing the many years of rust off each plow bottom and cover boards. All three rolling coulters took grease !!!  Got to find a 14 inch car tire for the depth wheel and I am ready to go plowing on Oct 15th  !!!  Thanks, Kenny L for parting with the plow shares  !!!! Looking forward to the sound of WD-45 Power Crater pistons talking thru a Nelson muffler, pulling a plow just exactly like the one my Dad bought new when I was 13 !!!!

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Doc, that is a stroke of luck to find them, and, 12 miles from home! Allis plow shares are like hens teeth, that's why I have so many plows. Find one with good wear parts, comes home.
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Oh good deal.
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As of right now, I think Kenny L has what I need and he is 12 miles away from me. Hopefully, Saturday morning we can get together and compare my old shares (with no p/n on them) and what he has in his private stash.
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With this info. Which plow share would you be looking for.
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Catalog # 581826 for the 394 slat bottom.   82 lbs weight.
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Originally posted by DrAllis DrAllis wrote:

Alex, I've got a similar sales book like you have posted only mine is dated July 26th, 1976. The 374 slat bottom was not used and it was replaced by the 394 slat bottom. The price went up to $175 each.


Interesting! What is the catalog # of the 394 bottom option? None of the 394 bottom wear parts are listed in my 1982 fast moving parts book, pictured above.
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Alex, I've got a similar sales book like you have posted only mine is dated July 26th, 1976. The 374 slat bottom was not used and it was replaced by the 394 slat bottom. The price went up to $175 each.
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On 80 series the same share is used when you change the frame from 14" to 16". Older JD plows used a short share which did not cut the full 14" or 16". The narrow "uncut" soil at the front was supposed to help in "flipping" the soil over. Friend years ago had a JD F145? 3 bottom with frame mounted jointers which I believe was the best plow I was ever around especially in sod ground. 
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Now we're getting somewhere !!!   And it somewhat confirms what I've been looking at. I feel my slat bottoms are a 16 inch cut, not 14 inch as the frame is set-up for. I believe my shares are a couple inches longer than they need to be.  Thanks, Alex !!
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If you have 14" bottoms, this book shows the 14" part #'s:




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Here are the shares number I come up with from my plow parts book, with that said I'm not going to say these are right.  Doc 326087,326086,326082 should work.
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Looks like the 385928 bottom is a 374 slat.



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It looks like the GramdpasTractor website that used to host the plow parts book in the knowledgebase section is gone. I don't know how to attach a PDF of the manual there without a website to host it. If any has a site, I'll share my PDF with you to post.
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Originally posted by DrAllis DrAllis wrote:

I'm beginning to think AGCO's on-line parts book for these old plows is missing a few pages. I wonder if the "374" slat bottom was for 70/80 series plows?? and the "394" was for the 9000 series and newer plows ??  and then also go backwards to the "364" slat to a 60 series ?? That would make sense and no such information available. With that in mind, I even wonder if the (70)569430 share p/n is even correct for my plow bottom ??   The metal tag attached to each bottom 385928-4 is the definitive info of what I have for a bottom series.

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Does the pdf in plow 101 still work for you guys. Hasn’t for awhile for me.

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