Can someone date my tractor:

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   Got me wondering if the ones I seen were unsold examples or something. I well remember them along with the European designed tractors which were more mainstream these days. They were more of a brownish gray, or orange color than the construction yellow of the older models. Also remember the black lettering and it changing to white although didn't know why till I asked a friends dad that worked there.

I have a lunch date with a couple of friends and families that worked the Springfield, IL plant in the 1970's and 80's and one was there till it closed. He built final drives till the parts ran out and was laid off. The other retired at plant closing. I ran with both party's boys when much younger, and we've kept in touch through the years.   

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Codger Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 23 Dec 2020 Location: Illinois Points: 1811	Post Options Post Reply Quote Codger Report Post Thanks(1) Quote Reply Posted: 04 Dec 2021 at 5:09pm
	Got me wondering if the ones I seen were unsold examples or something. I well remember them along with the European designed tractors which were more mainstream these days. They were more of a brownish gray, or orange color than the construction yellow of the older models. Also remember the black lettering and it changing to white although didn't know why till I asked a friends dad that worked there. I have a lunch date with a couple of friends and families that worked the Springfield, IL plant in the 1970's and 80's and one was there till it closed. He built final drives till the parts ran out and was laid off. The other retired at plant closing. I ran with both party's boys when much younger, and we've kept in touch through the years.

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Lazyts Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 05 Feb 2012 Location: Manitoba Points: 627	Post Options Post Reply Quote Lazyts Report Post Thanks(1) Quote Reply Posted: 02 Dec 2021 at 9:03pm
	For some reason the serial number record in Swinford's book for 11-B was incomplete. Seems that Roosa Master pump was fitted at S/n 18799, January 1975. Mark 2 engine was fitted at 19335, i'm guessing around a year later. 11-B discontinued early 1977, so likely ended around 19600 range. Highest I've seen here is 19590- last ones had a muffler under the hood. Fiat take-over was January 1974. Edited by Lazyts - 02 Dec 2021 at 9:10pm

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	I remember well into the 1983 year as drove by the plant twice daily the 11B, 16B, and 21B series as they were all staged in a single area. Larger tractors were in another area and not as easy to see from the perimeter. I also remember the units built for Iran setting off to themselves for years with the embargo going at the time. They became rust buckets over the years as time went on.

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	18798 was last Allis Chalmers HD11-B made. But they continued as Fiat Allis 11-B until 1977. Highest serial ive seen is 19612
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	i have heard they can be tough to get parts for but this one doesn't really need anything at the present. It may not in my tenure as it will only get limited and easy use. I have access to two parts chassis if needed in the future as they are not going anyplace, but neither is operational. Edited by Codger - 18 Dec 2021 at 5:55am

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	Back in the 80's I was looking at a Fiat Allis track loader with Srl # X4 - Salesman was all positive I should buy it . Talked to one of the parts guys - said it was a total nightmare to get parts for as was a prototype experimental machine . Said finding even filters for it required calling main distributor for parts as well as any other parts needed as separate pages in parts book for each X machine . Seen the machine again about 2 months later - contractor I bought a HD5B from had bought it . Was setting waiting for some parts from Italy to get it fixed .
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Codger Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 23 Dec 2020 Location: Illinois Points: 1811	Post Options Post Reply Quote Codger Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 Dec 2021 at 6:00am
	Thanks Dave. 1974 was the other year it was assumed to be but by that book you cite, it has to be into the 1975 year if serial numbers are sequential to build. At the present we are carrying on an estranged relationship, but hope to soon become very close. She is kind of cold and uncompromising, but I like it that way. Thanks again,

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	I'm not that into tractors that I' date it... But, Norm's book states that the last 11B of 1974 was #18798, so your guess of 1975 is probably right.
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	I purchased my Fiat-Allis 11B tractor with serial number 25L 1910 8 and would like to know when it was actually manufactured if able. I've been told 1975 but there have been inconsistencies with that serial number as to year of build. Thanks in advance. Edited by Codger - 30 Nov 2021 at 9:25pm