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D14JIM14 
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Posted: 05 Mar 2021 at 1:41pm |
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This 45 has set 30-35 years and I removed the shifting tower to find the 3 shafts the shifting forks are on are VERY rusted . How do I get them out to really clean them up .
Are there plugs on the one end to drive them out ? Again very rusty .
I clamped it to my work bench with the shift lever in and can't move them any direction .
Sugarmaker I saw you working on one of these .
Help !!
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Sugarmaker
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Posted: 05 Mar 2021 at 7:44pm |
There is a thread I had started that may help. Also try to get a good service manual. Yes you can drive the shift rods out but if they are that rusty you may want to soak it in something for a while??
this may work? This is not my thread but has some pictures: Regards Chris
Edited by Sugarmaker - 05 Mar 2021 at 7:49pm
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Posted: 06 Mar 2021 at 5:46am |
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This may be a dumb question , but how did you get the welsh caps out ?
Yes I got to soak the shafts ! Very rusted .
I will get a book for instructions too .
Thanks Jim
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Posted: 06 Mar 2021 at 6:07am |
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No such thing as a dumb question, welch plugs will be driven out by the shift rails. I suggest looking at Chris's pictures as they are great. If your parts are as rusty as you say I would start by soaking the whole thing in "evaporust" for a couple of days. I will caution you to be careful when driving the rails out of the detent balls as they are under spring pressure, WEAR SAFETY GLASSES cover whole with a rag. Keep us posted !!
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Posted: 06 Mar 2021 at 6:27am |
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Thanks
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Posted: 07 Mar 2021 at 10:14am |
Jim, I had never had one apart. It was a little liker doing a carb or small engine. Bunch of mechanical things that need to be removed in the right order. Yes the welsh plugs will pop out with the rails or a drift. We need some pictures! How is the rest of the tractor? Regards, Chris
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Posted: 07 Mar 2021 at 3:08pm |
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Motor will turn over with starter .
So rebuilt carb and going
To get a battery and tune the motor and try to start in a few days .
I'm on kidney dialysis 4 days a week so am a very slow worker. That's 4 days a week .
I need a 14.9-28 rear tire . No luck so far . I do need to rebuild the water pump or get a rebuilt one .
No water in the oil !
Leaked out of water pump . Radiator seems good . Tranny gears look good and hand clutch snaps good .
Lots to go before really know what I've got .
Felt a lot better 10 years ago when I did the 17 !
But determined to get it running .
I drove this as a kid for 3 years
Jim
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Posted: 07 Mar 2021 at 6:53pm |
Jim, Wishing you the best! And take your time on the tractor project is Ok sometimes better that way. Sounds like you have a good plan for this 45. Regards, Chris
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Posted: 08 Mar 2021 at 2:54pm |
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I got it all apart but the balls and springs are badly rusted . I hope Brenda or some one has them . I cleaned shafts enough to come out and will clean them more when I put it together again .
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Posted: 08 Mar 2021 at 3:18pm |
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Sounds like good progress and I agree with what Chris said about taking your time, more enjoyable that way, Mark
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Posted: 09 Mar 2021 at 9:15pm |
Yep, take your time Jim. You've got a childhood memory, a one owner and Dad's tractor. You're lucky, they're priceless that way. Could you use electrolysis on it? Otherwise my old standby is Acetone and ATF in equal parts.
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Posted: 10 Mar 2021 at 5:46am |
Electrolysis might work well too. Regards, Chris
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Posted: 10 Mar 2021 at 7:14am |
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I have a trans that I think is in fare shape. I will look at it tonight to see for sure. I will let you have it if you want to come and get it. I'll get back with you.
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Posted: 10 Mar 2021 at 3:55pm |
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I'm ready to put it back together after cleaning everything . I ordered springs and balls and a new pin for it as the others were very rusted . Got a shop manual and maintenance manual coming also .
The oil bath air breather has dead mud dobbers in it . Screen will soak in gas in a 5 gallon bucket for a long time also .
All for now , thanks for the free offer on a trans !
Slow moving Jim !
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Posted: 11 Mar 2021 at 5:47am |
Jim, Your making some great progress! Every piece that works again is one step closer to a complete working tractor! I did not know the parts were available good to know. Where did you find them? Regards, Chris
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Posted: 11 Mar 2021 at 7:17am |
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Posted: 11 Mar 2021 at 2:28pm |
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Sugar maker . The pin in the middle shaft was not in the shaft when I removed it . I was watching for it closely i have no idea where it could be . I've used a magnet every where in side and out of tower on floor with no results .
I thought I ordered one but it didnt come with the other parts . Do you have detentions of it .
Jim
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Posted: 12 Mar 2021 at 5:37am |
Jim, I think that illusive pin hid on me too. Cant remember how or what, but I think Dr Allis got me on the right track. Sorry i have slept since then and cant remember what I had for breakfast. But that pin has to be in there to keep you from shifting into two gears at the same time. Might be a picture in my thread? Manual may have a drawing of it? Not much help to you this morning! Regards, Chris
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