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JPG AUSTRALIA
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Posted: 03 Aug 2020 at 7:37am |
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I hear ya acfleet,happened to us 15 years ago,plane spraying fungicide on neighbors 200 yards from our house and sheds with hot wind blowing our way, couldn't believe it. We had burning nostrils locked up in the house,had to get in car and drive away,wife was pregnant at the time too,now im not anti spray or chemicals , crop 6000 acres annually and spray all that multiple times.
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Tbone95
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Only if any and all replies to his thread answer his question in his original post. If you want to say something else, start your own. Apparently. |
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Kansas99
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Two things here, first off I was not aware of any law requiring ground sprayers to run there booms 4ft of the ground, if there is (which I'm sure you're right) then what few neighbor farmers I have and myself will being serving life sentences in prison, oh and every commercial applicator in my country will be playing cards with us. Try bucking a terrace at any speed and any boom width, I can assure you 4ft has never happened and will never happen. Secondly I have never seen a plane spray at 50Ft. of the ground or crop, but if that's the case they are not a idiot that would be the person hiring them. I have hired planes for years and have never seen any plane flying 50ft over a field and I wouldn't even think of hiring them. My brother runs a spray plan and I can assure you he lifts up to clear a center pivot coming across a field and that is well under 15ft. I'm just curious what chemical(pesticide) are they spraying that doesn't let you work outside for 3 days. Surely they would have told you when they told you not to come out of the house. It must have been Furadan?
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ac fleet
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They can be any color you want to pay for--YELLOW is the base standard color used by the plane makers! --- now--ARE YA HAPPY?????????????
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FREEDGUY
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He wasn't complaining about "dumping" chemicals onto people in his yellow, blue and then a helicopter post earlier . Again, I was merely asking about plane colors .
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steve(ill)
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It just makes sense that the POTENTIAL for problems would be higher with a plane since it flies over the field at 50 ft, then makes a WIDE TURN up high to come back... The Field Buggy is more localized and you would THINK has better control over the spraying.
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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Tbone95
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Well, “sir”, he replied rather early on about the color of the guy’s plane and called him a jerk then too, that make ya happy?! It’s called conversation, not every reply is to your original post. “Deeper into a post”😂😂😂😂😂😂 Edited by Tbone95 - 02 Aug 2020 at 5:20pm |
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FREEDGUY
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My ORIGINAL POST was about the COLOR of the planes . AC's comment has NOTHING to do with that . You sir, should look a little deeper into a post
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Tbone95
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That seems completely BLATANTLY wrong acfleet. I don’t blame you a bit for being po’d.
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ac fleet
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Ground sprayers are by law requires to have boom height of 4 feet ---these idiot planes are 50 feet or more above the crop and the chit drifts for miles! ---As I write this ---our local dip is over my house again----I cant work outside for 3 days again because of the drift.
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DMiller
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Have heard those same horror stories of Over spray and destruction from Ground Applications not so much Crop dusting as well, Not ever seen People or Homes sprayed from a Crop Duster not even when close to the fields when lived KS, UT and OK as well Here.
Freedude must be one of those 'Guaranteed Organic' Growers that cannot justify pricing due to low yields. Edited by DMiller - 02 Aug 2020 at 8:43am |
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Tbone95
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Acfleet has probably had a bad experience, with a careless cowboy that did or does things recklessly. His opinion is as good as anyone’s. If you didn’t see that type of reply coming when it comes to spraying.....you didn’t look very hard
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Kansas99
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Holy smokes! I was under the impression that they sprayed crops and fallow land didn't know they targeted people.
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FREEDGUY
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WOW !! I did NOT see this type of reply coming ?? !! There's been "dusters" flying in this neighborhood for 45 years that I can recall, never heard of personal/property damage from them . Property damage due to the local "for hire" Co-Ops/ seed/fertilizer/herbicide joints are a different story
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ac fleet
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Anybody flying these stupid things dumping chemicals down on us should be jailed!---they are idiots with no respect for life in general.
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Thad in AR.
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When I was quite young I worked on a very large ranch in CO. The owner hired a crop duster to take me up in a 2 seater to look for cattle lost in a blizzard for insurance purposes. I’ve never been so sick in my life. We’d be 4 foot off the ground hop over a power line and drop right back down. He said to chew gum. It didn’t help. It was worse than my wife and I on a little sail boat watching whales in Hawaii. I won’t do either again.
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FREEDGUY
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Thanks truckerfarmer, that makes sense, I thought maybe the "yellow" denoted ag use . |
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Kansas99
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Yep they been using GPS for years, my brother farms and runs a spray plane business. He has a red and white Cessna. Around here the yellow ones are Air Tractors they I believe are all turbo props and carry a big load of water but suck down a lot of fuel. Air tractors are also sold to the military but the water tank hole is full of ammo and one hell of some sort of gatlin gun. If you got a tree or deer problem or both, no worries they will take care of it. Military uses in Central America and South for gorillas and drug cartels and such.
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truckerfarmer
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Generally the yellow ones are Air Tractor brand. Different companies paint their brand their own colors. Similar to the different tractor companies.
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mhankins
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There are white ones,yellow ones and blue ones around here. There have been a few crashes around here but so far have not heard about any fatalities.
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weiner
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Arthur Godfrey got fined for flying a DC-3 over New York City back in the early 50s. Why do people remember stuff like this, but can`t remember their name?
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Real heros wear dogtags, not capes.
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SteveM C/IL
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Guy flying the field across the road last evening had GPS cause he made his first pass on the edge then came back through the middle then worked his way across the field with the same pattern....no paper marker...made his turns a little less tight. Thought he was going under the power lines but just cleared them on the lift.
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TomC
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I think it was Arthur Godfrey that uses to say " there's old pilots and there's bold pilots but there's not a lot of old bold pilots "
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Tbone95
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That'd been quite the thing to live through for that farmer. Peeing saved his life!!! Wow....probably needed some clean underwear after that.
EXTREMELY rare to see a crop duster up here. I guess, small-ish fields, often surrounded by trees on 2 or 3 sides. About 8 years ago, extremely wet spring, the huge corporate farm here hired some fertilizer to be applied by air. The farm surrounds the school campus, daughter was playing softball, and he was working on the fields around there. Pretty neat to watch! |
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AllisFreak MN
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When I was a kid in the mid 70's there was a crop duster hired full time by the nearby large potato growing outfit. My brother worked field maintenance for that outfit and they had a fleet of about 8-10 newer International tractors all within a few years of each other, mostly 1466's and a couple 1566's, all with cabs. Potato farms like to keep a narrow strip of bare soil around their fields, I assume for insect and weed control, and all potato fields around here have center pivot irrigators because the soil is so sandy and can't hold moisture. The potatoes were sprayed with fungicide about every 5 days so the duster kept busy with the 3500 acres he had to spray. Sorry for rambling, but anyway, there was an employee out working the edge of one of those fields on a nice summer day and that field was being sprayed at the time. it wasn't unusual for the duster to have potato vines hanging from the landing gear with this particular pilot because he was fearless and would often get a little close to the ground. It was an old Stearman Biplane and was as tough as they get and perfect for carrying heavy loads of chemical. They would have to lift over the center pivot (which run non-stop all summer) and then drop back down and keep spraying, and then lift for the power lines or trees at the end of the field. The tractor operator stepped out of the cab to take a leak and saw the duster clear the irrigator but thought the plane sounded funny as he was peeing. Then he realized the plane wasn't lifting in time for the power lines and was coming right at him, he dove and laid flat on the ground as the plane clipped the folded up wing on his field cultivator and slammed in to the cab of his 2 year old 1466 and proceeded to flip over and land on its top. The propeller slice through the roof of the cab and would have killed the tractor operator if he would have been in the seat. The pilot walked away and was back in another cockpit a few days later. Unfortunately he crashed again a few years later and was killed. True story.
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Hubert (Ga)engine7
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Wouldn't want to fly one of those either. Those pilots have to be GOOD and on top of their game every second and they would have to be even more crazy than I am. And power lines don't go well with fixed wing or rotary wing. Hopefully if someone spends the $$$$$ for a military surplus Huey it will still have the wire strike protection system on it.
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Amos
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Those pilots are some of the best pilots in the world. You try staying on the right row at 95 knots, plus or minus nothing, at 3 feet over the crop, plus or minus nothing. There is no auto steer in the cockpit either. They are real pros
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acd17toy
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I some times think that some of those crop duster pilots have a death wish the way they fly.
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Clay
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People ask me why I won't fly a spray plane...I tell them, if the crash doesn't kill me, the chemicals will.
My hat is off to my friends flying sprayers. Fun but hard work. I love to watch them do their thing. Good entertainment. Best free airshow.
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ac fleet
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The jerk that sprays here has a yellow one and a blue one. The guy that farms north a mile has his own bi-plane that he does spraying with ----it's kinda neat to watch---flies so slow it just hangs in the air like a chopper. ---A couple years ago the chopper guy south of us hit a powerline while turning at field end and flopped over on its top killing him while his wife watched from the truck---ya these things are deadly!
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