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erikIL 
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 Topic: Mid $ loader recommendations for Maroon 7000?
Posted: 20 May 2018 at 12:58pm |
Short version-
I am just beginning my loader search and wanted to know if anyone with a 7000 sized tractor with a loader can describe their experiences (good and bad) with aftermarket loaders.
Long version- I am looking for a loader for my 7000- for moving large round hay bales (5' by 6'), scooping silage and maybe loading old cow manure into a spreader. I would not be doing any heavy duty dirt digging with it (I have an old back hoe for that). I also already have a 90hp tractor with a very stout JD148 loader that I use for large round bales and moving/back dragging gravel.
The loader on the 7000 would be more of a convenience than a necessity. To be honest, I just bought a very heavy 12 row IH 800 cyclo corn planter that is partly carried by the 3 point hitch and when I hooked it up to my 7000, I found out that I wouldn't be able to steer without adding a lot of front end weight (I currently have no front weights). Rather than just spending around $800 on a full set of front end weights, I figured that for an extra $2K more than the weights, a loader would not only give the front end ballast that I need to steer the planter but also would be very handy for other jobs.
I am hoping to not spend more than $3500- but cheaper is better.
I came across ads for a Bush hog QT 2400, a Westendorf TA 28 and a Bush hog QT 2840.
The Bush hog QT 2400 is cheap and already has brackets for an AC 175. The owner states that they are adjustable brackets and it will fit many tractors with side rails- but I wonder if it would be built heavy enough to move large round bales without flexing/bending...
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tomNE
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Posted: 20 May 2018 at 1:09pm |
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DrAllis
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Posted: 20 May 2018 at 1:11pm |
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Too big of a loader on a model 7000 tractor will cause the side frames to flex in front of the engine attachment point. You can have injection pump seizures, loose timing cover/front plate bolts and cracked/leaking engine oil pans. If you must, better brace those side frames between the engine and front support. Be careful when carrying heavy loader loads. I know this for fact because of a Customer who seized two injection pumps over a period of 6 or 8 years. Each time he was using the BIG loader.
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Posted: 20 May 2018 at 3:29pm |
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I,ve had convenient loaders on both a7020 and a7045. Westendorf is the best. Bush Hog is ok just not as easy to put on and take off. Either will have to be off to get side panels removed. Contact either company and you can get the correct mounting brackets. You won,t have a loader tractor, you,ll have a tractor WITH a loader. Still better than a scoop shovel. The 2840 BH will be the heavier.
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jiminnd
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Posted: 20 May 2018 at 6:55pm |
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If you are thinking more convenience for weight than need I would go with weights, way better visibility and no tractor damage.
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Lynn Marshall
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Posted: 20 May 2018 at 7:15pm |
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Short version- I wouldn't do it. Long version- The Dr. is correct, it takes a large,wide frame loader to mount on those tractors. It's hard on the front ends,unless it has the eight bolt front wheels or is a 7000 special. It can damage the front cover gaskets or worse from flexing of the frame. The foot clutch will require more maintenance from constant use and the hydraulics are a little undersized for a big loader.
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Kurzy
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Posted: 20 May 2018 at 7:20pm |
Howdy. I have a Dual 340 loader for sale. Its on a 170 but too much loader for this tractor. Has to be one of the newer loader, has rectangular frame. 7 foot bucket and strong. Now woods dual loader is new company.
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erikIL
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Posted: 20 May 2018 at 7:29pm |
Thanks guys. I definitely don't want to over stress anything or cause any damage. I will be looking for a full set of front weights. Anyone in the IL area know of a good salvage yard in the area with AC 7000 weights?
Kurzy- thanks for the lead on the loader- good luck selling it!
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Posted: 20 May 2018 at 8:42pm |
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Agree with Dr. And others. Have worked on a lot of them with same problem. MACK
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Posted: 21 May 2018 at 7:50am |
 DrAllis wrote:
Too big of a loader on a model 7000 tractor will cause the side frames to flex in front of the engine attachment point. You can have injection pump seizures, loose timing cover/front plate bolts and cracked/leaking engine oil pans. If you must, better brace those side frames between the engine and front support. Be careful when carrying heavy loader loads. I know this for fact because of a Customer who seized two injection pumps over a period of 6 or 8 years. Each time he was using the BIG loader. |
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I'd put a loader on almost anything else over a 7000.
Edited by Lonn - 21 May 2018 at 7:51am
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