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| Ben s   Silver Level     Joined: 16 Jan 2015 Location: Ontario Canada Points: 61 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Topic: Allis chalmers 170 injection pump static timing Posted: 03 Nov 2017 at 7:07pm | 
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   How do you check the injection pump static timing? Thanks in advance 
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| MACK   Orange Level   Joined: 17 Nov 2009 Points: 7664 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 03 Nov 2017 at 8:53pm | 
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   If I remember right, you remove timing window on side of pump, rotate engine until pump mark lines with straight edge of snap ring. Then mark on flywheel should line with hole in side of torque housing. If this is wrong, some one correct me.        MACK
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| injpumpEd   Orange Level Access     Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Walnut IL Points: 5122 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 04 Nov 2017 at 5:22pm | 
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   Normally on a CAV you'd just line the mark on the flange with the mark on the front cover. There are some that would line letter "C" up with the flat edge of the snap ring like Mack said. My question is, why are you concerned with the timing? Odds are there's something wrong here right? 
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| Ben s   Silver Level     Joined: 16 Jan 2015 Location: Ontario Canada Points: 61 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 04 Nov 2017 at 5:28pm | 
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   The reason why I'm concerned is the tractor cranks over very hard had starter checked put welding cables on and a 1000cca battery I just want to check every thing over I have not had this tractor long and don't know the history on it thanks
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| DougS   Orange Level     Joined: 03 Nov 2011 Location: Iowa Points: 2490 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 04 Nov 2017 at 5:58pm | 
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   I'd check the starter before I messed with the inj pump. | |
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| injpumpEd   Orange Level Access     Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Walnut IL Points: 5122 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 05 Nov 2017 at 2:00pm | 
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   so it cranks over hard, meaning it cranks slow? Sounds like it's fighting itself? Does it run good once started? Re-start ok? or ?? 
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     210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers!
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| DrAllis   Orange Level Access   Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 22140 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 05 Nov 2017 at 2:54pm | 
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You need the BIGGEST battery with the highest CCA to start one of those engines in cold weather. They were borderline on needing two batteries.  This also means good big battery cables and clean connections.
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| Ben s   Silver Level     Joined: 16 Jan 2015 Location: Ontario Canada Points: 61 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 05 Nov 2017 at 4:30pm | 
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   It cranks slow and hard like it's fighting itself it smokes bad when cranking then I give it a shot of ether then it will start ok all day long and once running it runs really well
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| MACK   Orange Level   Joined: 17 Nov 2009 Points: 7664 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 05 Nov 2017 at 10:58pm | 
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   Time for new or rebuilt starter.   MACK
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| DougS   Orange Level     Joined: 03 Nov 2011 Location: Iowa Points: 2490 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 06 Nov 2017 at 6:07am | 
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Christmas is coming.  Ask Santa for a gear reduction starter.
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| Ben s   Silver Level     Joined: 16 Jan 2015 Location: Ontario Canada Points: 61 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 06 Nov 2017 at 8:02am | 
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   Might have to lol thanks
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| farmtoybuilder   Orange Level     Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Dresden,Ohio Points: 1457 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 07 Nov 2017 at 3:38pm | 
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   as other said,New Starter and a block heater in cold weather!  | |
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