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Dmpaul89
Orange Level Joined: 06 Mar 2013 Location: Edwardsville,IL Points: 1689 |
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If it's like my F you'll have a hard time keeping it running on 5 gallon cans lol. I had bout 5 of them and man! Takes forever to fill with these newer "safety nozzel" cans that don't vent. Talk about frustrating sitting up there next to a hot engine..... up and down both ladders.... wore me out for a while
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CrestonM
Orange Level Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8357 |
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Can anyone with a K operator's manual tell me what it says the top speed is? I've heard mixed reviews, some saying as low as 11mph and others as high as 17mph, and I am just wondering what the book says.
Also, if anyone can tell me how many gallons the gas tank holds, and how long a tank lasts at full throttle (like while combining) Thanks! Edited by CrestonM - 16 Aug 2016 at 5:42pm |
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CrestonM
Orange Level Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8357 |
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So I'd probably need to find those turnbuckles if it doesn't have them already. All things I need to find out when I go to see it.
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Skyhighballoon(MO)
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Pilot Grove, MO Points: 3115 |
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That was optional. Other way was to adjust reel speed by moving the belt to different pulleys on the left side of the header and to adjust reel height using turnbuckles on each end (similar to a 3 point toplink). That's how my 10 foot rigid head works. Mike |
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1981 Gleaner F2 Corn Plus w 13' flex
1968 Gleaner EIII w 10' & 330 1969 180 gas 1965 D17 S-IV gas 1963 D17 S-III gas 1956 WD45 gas NF PS 1956 All-Crop 66 Big Bin 303 wire baler, 716H, 712H mowers |
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CrestonM
Orange Level Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8357 |
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Oh "reely"? Lol! So does that mean I'd need to find a lot more parts to put a reel on it? I was thinking just pull the alfalfa pick up, slide in a sickle, and find a reel for it, but that may not be the case.
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CrestonM
Orange Level Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8357 |
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I think it's white. I'll find out later.
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acd21man
Orange Level Joined: 07 Jan 2010 Location: tn Points: 831 |
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and i see that steering wheel still has alota white left on it or is that just dust?
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2 wd 45,2 D-17 diesel/gas 3 pt, 220,d21, 4020,2 4430s used daily http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCudh8Xz9_rZHhUC3YNozupw
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acd21man
Orange Level Joined: 07 Jan 2010 Location: tn Points: 831 |
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idk bout your laws and such but we have hauled F,2,3s with a 4 row corn head and we had a e and k2 once that we hauled with the platforms still on. on our trailer and ton dodge just gota watch for signs lol and hauled them pretty far also
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2 wd 45,2 D-17 diesel/gas 3 pt, 220,d21, 4020,2 4430s used daily http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCudh8Xz9_rZHhUC3YNozupw
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Dmpaul89
Orange Level Joined: 06 Mar 2013 Location: Edwardsville,IL Points: 1689 |
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You'll pry change your mind on replacing every belt when you see how much they cost....
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Joe(OH)
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Montezuma, Ohio Points: 966 |
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One thing that I see is that this combine is not set up for reel control. There should be a second lever like the variable speed/header height lever that is for the reel height and speed.
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Life is simpler when you plow around the stump.
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AC7060IL
Orange Level Joined: 19 Aug 2012 Location: central IL Points: 3212 |
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Yes, governor is a self contained unit. It has a top fill hole & a side full hole. Use a 7/16" wrench to remove hole bolts.
Yes, get an operators manual & parts manual if you buy machine. AGCO parts counter person will love you when you offer original part number. Many numbers have been updated or can quickly tell them if its discontinued. For the most part, these machines are very simple. Just track hydraulic lines, wires, linkage, chains, & belts to figure what runs what & where it's going or coming from. They were designed with a centerline configuration. Cab or operators station is centered for head & equal side to side machine balance. Machine weight is centered mostly near rear of drive wheels to offer the best traction. So, If you are driving it with a header in the raised position - go slow as steer tires can easily bounce off ground. |
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CrestonM
Orange Level Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8357 |
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Thanks Mike and AC7060IL! You guys' information is a great help!
AC...when you talk about the governor being self lubricated...you mean it has its own little reservoir I need to check and maybe add oil to? Thanks
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AC7060IL
Orange Level Joined: 19 Aug 2012 Location: central IL Points: 3212 |
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Viewing operator's station photo;
- Trans gear shift is near top of photo. It has "H" pattern. Reverse is closest at forward position. 1st is straight below Reverse. 2nd is in forward position on far side. 3rd is straight below 2nd. - engine choke & throttle cable (smaller levers are by radio box. - Header height (up/down) & Trans Variable speed (fast-forward/slow-backward) is on front console just left of gear shift. - machine separator clutch engage/disengage lever is located on lower console (can't be seen in photo) right side of operator's seat. General info: Transmission variable speed (operator's) lever activates a small hydraulic piston at variable speed drive belt sheaves. When operator moves lever forward, it opens hydraulic valve to let oil piston push sheaves together which in turns, speeds up drive belt. Opposite happens when operator moves lever backward. Machine separator clutch can be engaged & disengaged at any time. But it's recommended to only engage separator at low engine idle speed. Front drive tires could be 18.4-26" or 16.9-26". 18.4s were popular for better floatations. Rear tires are usually 7.5-16". GM250 is simple non electronic ignition 6 cylinder. Book says set timing at 0 TDC. It's best to set at 6 degrees BTDC. Carb is single barrel downdraft type with fan belt driven governor. This governor is self lubricated - check & keep oil at drain hole. Uses same oil as engine (good straight 30w). Governor should level carb's rpms sharply when throttle is opened up quickly. Carb may hunt once or twice then smooth off sharply. If carb continues to hunt, governor linkage needs adjusted. To adjust governor, change out alternator, replace fan belts, & repair pto shaft bearings, remove grain tank access panel from inside grain tank. |
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Skyhighballoon(MO)
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Pilot Grove, MO Points: 3115 |
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Creston - you can engage/disengage the separator on the go. Lever is on your right hand side below the seat next to console area.
Doesn't look like a quik-attach header so it's a four-hook head. If you have the rock door tool, you use the end of the handle to push in the spring loaded "pins" that lock each "hook" into the feederhouse so you can lower it/back away. They could be well rusted so take some kind of rust solvent to soak them and you may have to hammer them in, just don't ding up the pins. The manual probably describes this better. Of course you have to unhook any belts or chains driving the head and any hydraulic hoses (don't believe you'd have any on a pick-up head). Mike |
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1981 Gleaner F2 Corn Plus w 13' flex
1968 Gleaner EIII w 10' & 330 1969 180 gas 1965 D17 S-IV gas 1963 D17 S-III gas 1956 WD45 gas NF PS 1956 All-Crop 66 Big Bin 303 wire baler, 716H, 712H mowers |
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CrestonM
Orange Level Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8357 |
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Also, how hard are the headers to take on/off?
SP-100 combine headers are bears, but I'd think these would be easier.
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CrestonM
Orange Level Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8357 |
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Owner *claims* it's field ready. If I do get it, first thing I'm doing is tuning up the engine and replacing ALL the belts! I don't want to end up like ol' Joe at Hutch with his T Gleaner. He made a nice round around the field, then he stopped for a minute, and when he took off again...well....he didn't! The variable speed belt snapped! Heck, I even had trouble with the SP-100! The bin unloader drive belt snapped! It was probably an original belt though. It's a bear to replace too.
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CrestonM
Orange Level Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8357 |
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Thanks!! I know nothing about driving a Gleaner like this, so I guess I need to get a manual first, if I buy the combine. Getting pretty excited about going to see it later this week. Here's a pic of the operator's station (Look! It has music! LOL) I understand the obvious foot controls, and I see the throttle and the gear shift, and I think the other lever is the variable speed and header lift, right? Forward for faster, back for slower, and up and down for lift action? When you say proper variable speed action, do you just mean it changes speed smoothly? Also, I know on the 100 combines you have to be stopped to engage the separator, is the K the same way? Or is there a lever you can just pull/push while you're moving? Thanks!
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AC7060IL
Orange Level Joined: 19 Aug 2012 Location: central IL Points: 3212 |
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Loosening, not loosing. LOL
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AC7060IL
Orange Level Joined: 19 Aug 2012 Location: central IL Points: 3212 |
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The gleaner K is a great little machine. Trailer it home, if possible. If driving, count on 15 mph, stops, for speed. Actual speed maybe figure closer to 12mph?
Before you buy & drive, a few biggies to check for - good brakes, (two wheel & one transmission) - proper variable speed control of transmission, - equal tire pressures, - hydraulic fluid level, - engine coolant level. The real PIA things that can happen while driving an older gleaner that has not been run in years are; - hydraulic pump drive belt fails. If this happens, you loose hydraulic steering & variable speed of transmission. Replacing this belt requires loosing front engine's pto shaft's 2 mount bearings, plus loosing dual fan belts that drive pto shaft & removing grain tank unloader drive belt. - water pumps fails. O'Reillys have an inexpensive industrial Gm250 pump. Hint, it's is not the same water pump as early 1970's GM C10 pickups, which have a shorter shaft housing... - alternator goes out. Have a spare ready to light flashers and some night driving. |
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SteveM C/IL
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Shelbyville IL Points: 8034 |
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Depends how hard a dollar is to come by for you. Check tire pressures,all fluids,and jack up back wheels and spin em for wheel brg check.Lot easier to repack before leaving than along roadside in middle of nowhere.Gas it and go!Take wrench to adjust toe in.Off much can be SOB to drive.
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Michael V (NM)
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: NM Points: 2345 |
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when ya go look, take a tape measure..but I think a K should fit on a 102" trailer easily, without the head.
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CrestonM
Orange Level Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8357 |
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Let's see now...should I drive it 150 miles to the ranch, or find someone to haul it...
Right now I'm leaning towards the latter.
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CrestonM
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Good to know, I probably wouldn't have though about that!
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shameless (ne)
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oh...yeah....X2 what allisguy says...I forgot about that! whew!
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allisguy.11
Orange Level Joined: 02 Oct 2012 Location: Perry, Ny Points: 575 |
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MAKE SURE you put a strap around the unload auger to hold it back when you stop the truck.... ask me how I know....
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shameless (ne)
Orange Level Joined: 08 Jul 2016 Location: nebraska Points: 7463 |
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headers are still abundant for the "K"s, I have the 13 ft on my "K" and it handled 5 rows of soybeans just fine. I also have a 238 CH and a 330 CH. have run 200+bu/acre with the 3 row, going slower than most prolly do, but most all the grain went in the tank!
I've never run wheat or oats thru mine. I think some headers off the "F"s also would fit on the "K"s too.
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CrestonM
Orange Level Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8357 |
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Never mind...I won't need a header after all! Just a reel and sickle.
That should be easier to come up with than a whole header.
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CrestonM
Orange Level Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8357 |
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What kind of bpa were you getting?
Were you cutting wheat?
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Johnwilson_osf
Orange Level Joined: 29 Jul 2012 Location: Mount Bethel PA Points: 926 |
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Creston,
We had a K and a K2. Our K2 came with a 10ft grain head. The K2 came with a 13 or 15 foot grain head. Not sure which, it has been a while. But the K handled that large head with no problem. John |
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CrestonM
Orange Level Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8357 |
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We call 'em swathers too!
I'll post pics when I go to see it.
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