A little OT: 500Hp Challenger

I understand, that agco, is going to sell the 1050 Fendt as a Challenger, has anyone heard if this tractor will be available in the Massey lineup as well?

I'm interested in one, for pulling a 36-22" planter.

beans is $8.52 here today!

Wow and I thought the green tractors were expensive. I wonder if they will "tote the note"?

The newest John Deere 600HP quad track they just came out with sell for over $500,000

Dad just leased a brand new tracked challenger mt765 a couple years ago. For a 5 year lease its around $26,000 a year for 600 hours a year. You can lease them for 300 hours cheaper. I think it is like a $320,000 machine list price. That's about the best way to do it because the lease payments go towards the buy back price at the end of the lease and you can finance the remainder for another 5 years. We love these machines. After owning one on tracks I don't know how a person could be interested in a wheel machine for more money. We even plant with two MT765's.

He bought an extended warranty for the length of the lease which was well worth the money because it's had some electrical issues. They replaced the main wiring harness, fan clutch, some remote solenoids, and most recently both reaction arms which I dont even want to know the dollars that would have cost. They didn't need to be replaced I didn't think. The bearings were just damp looking, but ziegler is pretty thorough with their inspection and on a tractor with 800 hours I guess they shouldn't be, but my tractor is worse than they were. I think the quality control has went down since agco bought out caterpillars design, but seems like that's the case with all brands now. Just push them out the door. My 765 A series was made by cat with the C9 engine. I'm not trying to preach here, but before I looked into a 500hp fwa tractor I would look at one of these. Less compaction, and all the power goes to the ground.

I should have said though, none of the problems have kept the tractor from going except for a hydraulic remote solenoid, they just fixed everything because it was throwing codes.

Edited by 7060 - 20 Apr 2016 at 9:08am

Good point Dave as I purposely went looking for a 2500HD GM a few years ago that was bare bones, and found a decent 2007 for farm use & what I considered decent money.
Plenty of horror stories out there on vehicle or tractor electronics that make a computer/electronics dummy like me stay with the old mechanical stuff.
All depends on what a fella wants in the end.

As far as I'm concerned, they can have all the computer crap on these new tractors, combines and sprayers. I have been there, done that. It gets REALLY expensive when they go out of warranty, and color doesn't matter. When these new tractors are 20 years old, they are likely to be sitting in a fence row. I wouldn't mind leasing, as long as I had warranty the length of the lease, but I won't buy anymore. I finally got rid of all the ones I had bought. All I will buy now is the older ones that I can work on myself.

I'm with Shameless! Emissions controls and EPA regs are one reason they are so high !

Zetor makes a few 100+ HP tractors that don't have all that fancy computer stuff included. They're many thousands less expensive too. The problem is there are barely a dozen Zetor dealers in the U.S.

7060 wrote: Dad just leased a brand new tracked challenger mt765 a couple years ago. For a 5 year lease its around $26,000 a year for 600 hours a year. You can lease them for 300 hours cheaper. I think it is like a $320,000 machine list price. That's about the best way to do it because the lease payments go towards the buy back price at the end of the lease and you can finance the remainder for another 5 years. We love these machines. After owning one on tracks I don't know how a person could be interested in a wheel machine for more money. We even plant with two MT765's.

Lot of 50 to 70 year old tractors out there that still work fine,how many of these fancy computerized tractors with all the plastic will still be usable when they are that old?

Some guys cuss the shift cables on a 7000 series but I would take that over the push button range shift on our dt240. Half the time when going from rabbit to turtle pushing the button and the computer screen will flash back and forth between the two. Love the power & cvt of that thing but little stuff like that will drive ya nuts especially when you jump in the 7045 and stuff just works ( a little crude maybe but it works)!

Because it takes a 25% bigger tractor when it's a John Deere to pull the equipment lol.