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DiyDave
Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Gambrills, MD Points: 50532 |
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The little brass thing, above the needle valve, above the float...
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Dan73
Orange Level Joined: 04 Jun 2015 Location: United States Points: 6054 |
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If you take the carb apart and remove the needle and float the seat is where the gas comes in and the needle seals against it. I found a bit of grass wedged in there. Just be careful not to bend the gloat and you will be fine putting it back on the tractor.
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TomYaz
Orange Level Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: PA Points: 10319 |
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I'm not too familiar with the workings of a carb. What part is the "seat"
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Dan73
Orange Level Joined: 04 Jun 2015 Location: United States Points: 6054 |
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Pull the carb. Sounds like the carb is flooding out. My d17 did something like that this summer I had a bit of grass in the seat so the needle was almost closed but not quite. Weird part was that the carb didn't leak fuel but it wouldn't start and run until I got the seat cleaned out.
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TomYaz
Orange Level Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: PA Points: 10319 |
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Ok update...
Took off the air intake hose to carb...no issue. Plenty of vacuum. Tapped the carb like Gene Kelly..Tried starting with ether. Got flames out the carb, smoke out the stack. But no real turning over. Drained all the gas. Put in Schell Hi-test, no ethanol. Got puffs of smoke, but that's it. The puffing of smoke tells one its getting gas right? Or could it be not getting enough? Just wondering if there is a carb problem.
WTH??
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TomYaz
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Ted J
Orange Level Joined: 05 Jul 2010 Location: La Crosse, WI Points: 18704 |
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I have rebuilt 2 TSX464's in the last couple of weeks and have to do my D-17 now also. I WILL NOT use any other gas in these anymore except ethanol free!!! Everything inside the bowl was RUSTED! AARGHHHH!!
Get a carb kit and take a look. Carb float might be rusted in the open position. TOOOO much gas for them to run. Happened to mine |
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stu(ON)
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 377 |
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Corbinstein, funny you mention that. I buy hi-test to put in my push lawnmower 'cause I got tired of putting carb kits in it. Dealer told me alcohol was bad for the diaphragm; says so in the owner's manual. Haven't rebuilt the carb since.
On the other hand, the WD only gets regular, but I run it at least every two or three weeks and always kill it by shutting the gas off at the sediment bowl.
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corbinstein
Orange Level Joined: 31 Jul 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 796 |
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87 octane (ethanol gas) right?
I refuse to use that stuff in mine, as the ethanol is hydroscopic (attracts moisture) You end up getting plenty of moisture in your system and that not only degrades your fuel, but rusts everything up. I buy my fuel at CO-OP, non-ethanol only. |
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Dan73
Orange Level Joined: 04 Jun 2015 Location: United States Points: 6054 |
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I don't remember what was going on with mine something was probably taken apart it was about 5 years ago. but I just remember having trouble starting it and finding the tube full of acorns this time of year.
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TomYaz
Orange Level Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: PA Points: 10319 |
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Sat for about two month..but how could a chipmunk get in there?????
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Dan73
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Tom if it has been sitting for a while maybe you should check the air cleaner. It might be that some chickmunks thought your d17 needed acorns for comfort food and now she can't breath. I had one get into my serries 1 oil bath filter housing I don't remember just how now but I found out because he was using the air hose to the carb as a trash bin.
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TomYaz
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Ya...this is what I get for getting the tractor fixed well before the real need for it in late October/November....
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JC-WI
Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: wisconsin Points: 33639 |
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LOL , comfort food..., good thing you didn't have any to feed to that D17... it wouldn't have digested that stuff very good. Hope ye get it started, not having stuff do what it's s'pose to do when you want it to isn't any fun. |
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TomYaz
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Went to the freezer to get some ice cream as "comfort" food...just got it yesterday evening. Kids ate it all
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TomYaz
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I just put some Shell 87 in..yes will try that.
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WD45
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Tom tap the side of the carb with a hammer. When you get the D17 running to shut the tractor off - turn the gas off at the tank and let the gas all burn out of the carb. Also use top grade gas. We run Shell's 92 octane and the engines seemed to run a lot better on it. Good luck
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TomYaz
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Yes fuel in the bowl, runs out of the drain.
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DougS
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What do you mean by "got gas?" Is there fuel in the carb bowl? Does it run out freely when you open the carb drain? It seems most like your needle valve stuck in the closed position.
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TomYaz
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So I just had a rebuilt head put on, rebuilt carb, new plugs. Took it home from SLI and it ran like a top that day. Parked it in the shed. Two months later today, I go to start the damn thing wont start--not even a cough. Got spark. Got fuel. Took a couple plugs out. Didn't smell any gasoline. put a splash of gas in the cylinder. Not even a cough. Know I have spark as could see them coming off the plug. Extremely frustrating evening.
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