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    Posted: 24 Nov 2015 at 5:52pm
parting out a 653 dozer engine has 5 hours on complete overhaul including injection pump and injectors  forward reverser is bad tracks and undercarrage good  transmission is also good
great-grandpa's wc with picker, 20/35, speed patrol, uc, m crawler, 620, 653 dozer d21 d17 d19
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Anyone with a HD4 or 655 or even HD3 should be looking at parts from the machine . 

that 2200 engine was also used in fork trucks and in cotton pickers - but there they put a turbo on it and boosted it to about 85 HP in the picker


Edited by Coke-in-MN - 25 Nov 2015 at 10:10pm
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How much for the whole machine? Tracy
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Bob or Coke: 

Is the forward reverser not available for the 650 series?

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Should be out there to rebuild the unit . Same as HD4 - clutch pack and converter .
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 Might call IVAN from site and see what he has or can get .
(We can rebuild it or sell you the parts to rebuild it 989-379-2721)



Edited by Coke-in-MN - 26 Nov 2015 at 12:13pm
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my mechanic has been talking with ivan and they told me several parts not available
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i would really like to put this machine back together but was told parts not available 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote pinball Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Nov 2015 at 8:38pm
It would seem to me if the tracks, transmission and engine are good then rebuild your reverser. Same as the h4. That's a nice size small dozer. As soon as you sell one part from it THEN it becomes a scrap unit. If you don't want it put a price on here. someone will buy it. I would think its to good to scrap out. I am sure theres guys on here can help you with any parts you need. Just my 3 cents worth.
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somewhere out there is what is needed - it's just finding it . 
Yet there are parts made of unubtanium - that is until one gives up - then the part is found a month later . 

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New front and rear housing for the clutch is not available new but we have used available . Bob call me 989-379-2721
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AFTER TALKING TO IVAN NOT READY TO  PART OUT  YET GET BACK TO YOU WHEN READY
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Bob, if you don't fix it yourself, I hope you give someone else the opportunity to do it.
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Bob:  Is the forward reverser a Borg Warner unit?...AC used a Velvet Drive Torque converter in the 700 series backhoes  and may have shown up in the crawlers.   When you get the unit out let us know what the tag says on the converter and can help you from there.  Send a PM and will provide more details.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote B52FXR Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jan 2016 at 2:51pm
How are the final drives on your machine. I am going to rebuild mine, but would be nice to have a set of extras down the road.
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In addition to adding a turbo they also added a counter balancer which was driven off the crankshaft.
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do still have any parts for the 653? i need track adjusters.
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