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Macon Rounds ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 18 Feb 2010 Location: Pittsburgh Pa Points: 2228 |
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The Allis "D" Series Tractors, Gravely Walk behind Tractors, Cowboy Action Shooting !!!!!!! And Checkmate
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DrAllis ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 21725 |
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Absolutely NOT stock or OEM !! Power Crater bowl only is stock gas or LPG.
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Dan73 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 Jun 2015 Location: United States Points: 6054 |
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Wow are you sure someone isn't messing with you? Looks like an international fire crater pistions do you by any chance have a farmall M there missing a pistion? At any rate I would say it is time to get some new pistions they should have a crater in them with a fairly step sides and a flat bottom not the full bowl like the wd motors had. There is a good thread over in the knowledge base section which shows what the allis chalmers power crater pistions look like.
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Don(MO) ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Bates City MO. Points: 6862 |
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Looks like a M&W piston to me.
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3 WD45's with power steering,G,D15 fork lift,D19, W-Speed Patrol, "A" Gleaner with a 330 corn head,"66" combine,roto-baler, and lots of Snap Coupler implements to make them work for their keep.
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Macon Rounds ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 18 Feb 2010 Location: Pittsburgh Pa Points: 2228 |
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If you look at the top left photo it has a MFG name CONFOR MATIC but i have never heard of them.
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eighty nine ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 13 Nov 2013 Location: ILLINOIS Points: 96 |
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It has Comfortmatic on the side. Google it.
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Macon Rounds ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 18 Feb 2010 Location: Pittsburgh Pa Points: 2228 |
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Well....... i could do that but then look at all the fun we would be missing out on. And the spelling is CONFOR MATIC.
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eighty nine ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 13 Nov 2013 Location: ILLINOIS Points: 96 |
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Ooops, Thanks for the spell check.
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norm[ind] ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 29 Oct 2010 Location: bourbon,ind Points: 2992 |
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i have heard of them ---took them out of a wd???--we nevr found any others had calls fo them --never fouund out who the supplier was--aftermarket something???? we had onne 20yrs.ago
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Dan73 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 Jun 2015 Location: United States Points: 6054 |
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Well if you do Google it you get one post in here from 2010 when someone asked about them and no one replied and there are a couple of posts from yesterday's tractors where it looks like of you get the number off the piston skirt someone Ober there might be able to set you up with rings.
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Brian G. NY ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: 12194 Points: 2259 |
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I have 2 sets of used Conformatic 4-1/8" GE31X "dished" pistons for WD-45 or D-17.
I also have a single new Conformatic GE30X flat top piston for a WD. They were from Sfterling Aluminum Products, a fairly well known company from the 40s and 50s.
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Macon Rounds ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 18 Feb 2010 Location: Pittsburgh Pa Points: 2228 |
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Yep thats it !!!!! And that's also why i ask question on here ...... You get the real answers with pictures. :-))))
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45 turboa- ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 Feb 2012 Location: coral city wi Points: 441 |
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I think tractor supply had conformatic pistons. I know i have overhauled wd's and 45's that had conformatic pistons but they had a dished piston.
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Fred in Pa ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Hanover Pa. Points: 9210 |
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I can get u new pistons like this for the 149 engine .
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He who dies with the most toys is,
nonetheless ,still dead. If all else fails ,Read all that is PRINTED. |
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Fred in Pa ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Hanover Pa. Points: 9210 |
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I have seen many WD,WC B,C CA engines I have rebuilt with CONFOR MATIC flat pistons in them .
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He who dies with the most toys is,
nonetheless ,still dead. If all else fails ,Read all that is PRINTED. |
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Macon Rounds ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 18 Feb 2010 Location: Pittsburgh Pa Points: 2228 |
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Hey Fred
Do these piston increase compression ??? Thanks in advance. |
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The Allis "D" Series Tractors, Gravely Walk behind Tractors, Cowboy Action Shooting !!!!!!! And Checkmate
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Fred in Pa ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Hanover Pa. Points: 9210 |
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Sent u a PM
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He who dies with the most toys is,
nonetheless ,still dead. If all else fails ,Read all that is PRINTED. |
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DaveKamp ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Apr 2010 Location: LeClaire, Ia Points: 6045 |
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Since the design has a bump out on the top, it's POSSIBLE that the piston height/displacement could yield a different compression ratio, but more than likely, the engineers didn't go to any extreme measures to increase the CR.
The side effect to redesigning piston heads for higher CR, is increased shrouding of the valves, and disturbing the airflow. The internal-combustion secret society realizes that former isn't a really big deal... the piston shrouding valves only occurs when the slug is near TDC, and as the piston continues south, the shrouding moves away, but the complex shape of the top tends to create little pockets of stagnation, so the possible improvements and detractions are likely to cancel out, yielding more of an academic result than actual. So unless there's really well-documented before-after performance change, I'd bet my buck that it was more patent-protected marketing magic than applied science. That being said, one WILL find 'conforming pistons' to be more prevalent in air compressors than internal combustion engines... In larger scale scenarios, I saw the lid off a LeRoi (RoiLine) engine set up to be an engine-compressor 'unit', where the compressor slugs were conformal-fit to improve compressor output. |
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Ten Amendments, Ten Commandments, and one Golden Rule solve most every problem. Citrus hand-cleaner with Pumice does the rest.
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Macon Rounds ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 18 Feb 2010 Location: Pittsburgh Pa Points: 2228 |
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Theory and education is always good .....
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Dick L ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Edon Ohio Points: 5087 |
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At top dead center using those pistons on a flush surface head the top ring has got to be way down in the sleeve. Not that it could be a problem but would make a wide ring groove to remove. I had not seen that piston in any of my tear downs.
Edited by Dick L - 31 Dec 2015 at 1:21pm |
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Fred in Pa ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Hanover Pa. Points: 9210 |
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Did u read FLAT PISTON . ?
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He who dies with the most toys is,
nonetheless ,still dead. If all else fails ,Read all that is PRINTED. |
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Dick L ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Edon Ohio Points: 5087 |
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An you expect an old man to read with understanding. ![]() Obviously I didn't. ![]() Looking at the picture of the subject piston I wondered. Now I am still wondering.
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