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    Posted: 18 Jul 2015 at 3:37am
of buying new bolts,washers,nuts,fasteners/hardware of all kinds on auctions! sure can get the stuff a whole lot cheaper that way! I needed some 2=1/2x 3/8 bolts for something the other day....and had a whole slue of them and they were fine threaded ones which would work fine anyway! I grabbed a handful of them and put them to use....cept there is not one wrench out of the hundreds that I have that will fit those heads or nuts! not metric, not SAE, only thing is vise grips/pliers/pipe wrench/cresent! that fit them! WTF! oh...and I remember buying a lot of new nails of various sizes at auction, and one 50 lbs box of galvanized nails were all melted together in one bloob! lol...they went back onto another auction!
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Clean the rust off and then a wrench will prolly fit...  NEVER heard of such a thing!
By the way, it is NOT a Crescent wrench.... Wink  it is called a "metric adjustable wrench" now-a-days. LOL


Edited by Ted J - 18 Jul 2015 at 8:29am
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they ain't rusty! they're in new condition! they're kinda like the oil plug on one of my trucks, ain't gots any wrench that fits it either, nor my mechanic that has bouts every tool ever made...hafta use a "metric" vise grips! I remember that now Ted...about the "metric cresents"! years ago I bought a pallet full of about every kind and size washers there is and today only have about a handful of some of them left! had to go buy sum yesterday! figgered that pallet load saved me prolly $1000. or more thru the years! (paid $25.00 when I bought them).
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Wisht I had a few pallets of that kinda stuff!!  You bet it would save a BUNCH of money!
I remember a socket that had spring loaded round things in it that pushed down in and made what ever size you were working with.  I'll see if I can find it....

Gator Grips Universal Socket

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Edited by Ted J - 18 Jul 2015 at 1:38pm
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Just like the lug nuts on my truck!! Chevy 2500 hd 2001!
Don't quote me on this, but the 22m is large, the 21 is small, the 3/4 forget, 13/32, try, this try that, nope the 7/8, clue? Tied ever thing in the past, from Craftsman, Napa, Mac, to Wally World brand, and NONE of them fit the lug nuts in a secure fashion here!
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I think that stuff is also going the way of the 2x4.....Dale
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Could be British Whitworth.

US standard for 3/8 heads and nuts is 9/16 but heavy could be 11/16. Square nuts 5/8", heavy square 11/16.

British standard 3/8 bolts Whitworth the hex is .592 to .600". 15.25 mm or 19.2/32. Definitely odd for US and metric wrench sets. Whitworth wrenches are usually marked with the bolt size, not the head size. So the Whitworth wrench for 3/8 bolts would be marked 3/8 which is clearly a lot different than the actual head size. Works for them, not for us.

World standards for metric hardware also varies by the continent.

And even phillips screw heads are different. What looks like phillips in Japanese and Chinese radios is closer to ISO metric and US standard phillips drivers wreck them. ISO metric drivers are loose in US phillips but fit the ISO screws tightly. Sometimes metric ISO phillips heads have a small dimple on the head as an indicator. ISO phillips drivers are hard to find in the US, though last I looked McMaster-Carr carried them. I got a ships sparks who traveled to SE Asia to get me a set and they are handy when working on radios from that part of the world.

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that's what happens when you have SAE bolts made in China........... somebody converted the 3/8 bolt with a 9/16 head to millimeters, then rounded off.. Next thing you know the head is .020 oversize and the wrench don't fit, and the  5/8 wrench is .040 TOO BIG.
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First off, a crescent wrench is now called a; women's open end combination wrench set!

Buddy has sockets with burrs in then to catch bolts and nuts that are rounded off or rusty.  Get you a set of them and they'll do the trick.  Just gotta tap them on and off the bolt/nut
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Could also be the old 9/16 bolt size that's not made any more... Seems to me I have a 3/4" double offset ring spanner, that has 3/4" on one end, and 19/32?, on the other...

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I just bought some 9/16" bolts. They are still made. The new Dexter axle I got a month ago has slots for 5/8" bolts and round holes for 9/16" in both mounting plates.

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I never heard of a Crescent wrench until I left the farm and got around other humans. Dad would holler "get the adjustable about 10 times a day".
I had for years and lost an older Craftsman 10" adjustable (oops, I mean Crescent) that was real thin and very handy. Anyone know where I might find a thin replacement?
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So you're having a few issues with your "bargains" .... Just think of all of the money you are saving Wink
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Brian...those are just a few of the bargains I gots out of bouts a 1000 lbs of hardware thru that years!
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Originally posted by GARY(OH/IN) GARY(OH/IN) wrote:

I never heard of a Crescent wrench until I left the farm and got around other humans. Dad would holler "get the adjustable about 10 times a day".
I had for years and lost an older Craftsman 10" adjustable (oops, I mean Crescent) that was real thin and very handy. Anyone know where I might find a thin replacement?


We never called an adjustable wrench by its Brand name either, or a copy machine a "Xerox". Apparently those were the dominant manufactures in their day, so they got the claim. I've been fortunate to have good Pawn Shops close to my work. With the down turn in the economy, death and retirement of craftsmen and manufacturing in the area, a lot of different, odd, quality, etc. tools have been available. I have bought several made in the USA adjustable wrenches there just because this one opens a little wider, this one is a little heavier, or in your case, this one is a little thinner.
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Originally posted by GARY(OH/IN) GARY(OH/IN) wrote:

I never heard of a Crescent wrench until I left the farm and got around other humans. Dad would holler "get the adjustable about 10 times a day".
I had for years and lost an older Craftsman 10" adjustable (oops, I mean Crescent) that was real thin and very handy. Anyone know where I might find a thin replacement?
I don't know, but you might try this....
http://www.wrenchingnews.com/
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When I taught Vo-Ag, we had tool identification.
The thing that always got the students was the Crescent Wrench.  I would put out a different brand and the students would call it a Crescent Wrench.  
Well guess what.....that is the wrong answer.  It is a SLIDING ADJUSTABLE JAW WRENCH.
Boy would they argue, squirm and get upset.  Then I would hand them some tool catalogs and ask them to find me a Crescent Wrench in the catalog.
None of them ever could find one.  hahahahahaha  
I then reminded they had paid attention to details and to read their study materials, they would have gotten the question correct.  Besides, Craftsman never made a Crescent Wrench.  Only Crescent makes Crescent wrenches.
I learned that one from my high school Vo-Ag teacher and noticed that this was the most common mistake at the district and state contest.

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Originally posted by SHAMELESS SHAMELESS wrote:

Brian...those are just a few of the bargains I gots out of bouts a 1000 lbs of hardware thru that years!



This is a great topic you brought up, I actually laughed out loud when I read about your 50 lbs box of galvanized nails. At auctions in the past, I have been known to pay 50 cents for an old Folgers coffee can full of nuts, bolts, & washers (or nails) just so I could have the metal coffee can. I figured the hardware was free! Seems like a coffee can full of hardware now fetches a couple of bucks at auction.......still a bargain if you need the hardware.... and you have a wrench that fits the bolt heads LOLLOL

 
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Clay...when dad bought (well any farmer around here) one of those wrenches...it was always a "cresent" as at that time, that's the oly company that made them around here! when you said you needed a "cresent" wrench, everyone knew what you were talking about! there have been and still is companies that try to copy them or make them better...but seldom never do! just like the "vise grips" that also is a brand name and like the cresent wrenches they are also still being attempted to make them better or copied by other companies...and if yo ask for "vise grips" everyone knows what you are talking about!
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Originally posted by Gerald J. Gerald J. wrote:

I just bought some 9/16" bolts. They are still made. The new Dexter axle I got a month ago has slots for 5/8" bolts and round holes for 9/16" in both mounting plates.

Gerald J.

I should have phrased it better, sorry.  It is still made, but at most places I order through, its a special order only item.
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yep shameless,always call them a cresent,and always will,thanks to my father,and probably his father ,a lot easier to yell out to someone on the ground to get a cresent and throw it to you when your on top of a harvester or under a machine.

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Around here, we call the adjustable a monkey wrench, although it is not the original design of Mr. Monkey. His was more of a pipe wrench looking thing but with smooth jaws. AKA the knuckle buster.
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I spent my entire childhood "Getting the green handled pump pliers" out of the "chainsaw box". It wasn't till I went off to tech school to get all learned up on the ways of the world that I found out it was called a Channel Lock......
 
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