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    Posted: 10 Jul 2015 at 4:38pm
Ok...I'm looking at 2 different machines. Need advice.

#1 1985 Gleaner N6 with 3200 engine hrs & 2600 sep. Hrs comes with 320 head. It is pretty close to me like 300 miles. Looking at about $15K for the package. Combine is in very good shape. I've got a buddy that can haul for me(cheap)

#2 1982 Gleaner N6 Series 3. This one has a Cummins L10 engine conversion with only 710 hrs. Not sure on sep. Hrs. It has a heavy R7 rear axle and several other updates. Combine has been in storage since 2006 according to owner but has been run in the barn pretty regularly. No heads with it. Over 1000 miles from me. Shipping will be ALOT!! Asking $19K for it before shipping.

Just looking for y'all's opinions. I'm leaning toward #1

Thanks Clay

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How many acres per year do you plan on doing with it?
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Around 750. I will also be running an N5 in soybeans.
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I haven't bought an N6, but watching prices, those both seem high, unless they are extremely great condition machines.
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Take the 1 off the price and you sould be about right on the price.
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heads usually go for ore than the combines...if the one has a head you can use with it...that's a plus.
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also...around here N6's go for about $3000-$6000.
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Dadgum! Why do those machines go so cheap, but I see L3's going for $10K to $15K?
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the go cheaper when their ain't no dealers around close!
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We'll I've not been to look at it yet and the shipping was included on that 15K. I've not negotiated any on the price yet either. I think it is going to have a header trailer with the table as well. I think they are pretty good machines for the price and the capacity.
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Value depends on the condition and your use for the machine. But IG's point about what they are worth in the market has to be considered as a fact too. On the other hand you could end up with way more in repairing a $5000 combine. It is hard to come out after you paid too much in the first place. It is hard to find the right one at the right price but usually the harder you shop and the more of them you see sell - the better decision you will make. Sometimes guys end up with too many updates and upgrades in an older machine and need someone to bail them out.
I know a little about L10 engines, less about combines, but I'm surprised to hear of one in a combine. I wonder how many RPMs they are running the L10 because as a truck engine they work best in a range of 1500 to 2000 RPMs. Lots of ways to get around the RPM thing but until I knew about that I'd sure be looking what else could be had for $19000.
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I'm no expert but I live in East Tennessee and just about any good combine will be priced $10-$15000 with heads. I would say just go with your gut combines are not as plentiful here as in the corn belt. We had one hauled 320 miles from Indiana and trucking was $4 a mile, this was last July.
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Originally posted by CrestonM CrestonM wrote:

Dadgum! Why do those machines go so cheap, but I see L3's going for $10K to $15K?


that's crazy! I bought my late L2 Corn Plus that's almost a L3 for $7000. came with a 15 foot flex head, a 630 corn head that had less than 40 acres on a full rebuild, 6 pick up loads of spare parts.

the only option the combine doesn't have is the cigar lighter, rear wheel assist and powerfold ladder
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Got 10,000 or so for my N6 with 20 foot table 3 years ago. Went down to the my/tn area. Had 1900 engine and 1300 sep hours on it. Less than I felt it was worth but still good money for a N6. For 19,000 I'd be looking for a cheap R62.
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I've pretty munched ruled out the $19K option. The machine that's closer to me I think is a better machine. It is the last year they were made and has a head with it. That would give me 2 20 ft heads to run in soybeans. Should be able to move through my acres much faster.
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There is an R62 on tractorhouse for 18,000. Alot of them in the 20s. Just depends on which direction you feel comfortable going. A N6 in good shape will eat alot of grain. There alot better corn combine then bean combine in my opinion.
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I'm a wheat farmer, so I'm not too corn savy. What's the difference in a "regular" Gleaner and a "Corn Plus"?
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I saw that R62 for 18K. I was trying to stay away from the Deutz Air cooled. Not that I don't think they are ok but I am cautious on not knowing who had it before and how they were maintained. Right or wrong thinking?? A lot of guys I talked to also say to get at least a 96 model b/c that's when they lengthened the shoe and it made them so much better. What's your thought their? Their is a 97 model RWA with 24 ft head on tractor house for 32K but that's getting on up their for my size operation.

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Originally posted by CrestonM CrestonM wrote:

I'm a wheat farmer, so I'm not too corn savy. What's the difference in a "regular" Gleaner and a "Corn Plus"?


as near as I can tell, its got beefed up wear areas and a larger clean grain elevator to deal with 180+ bpa yields instead of 60 bushels per acre
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Come over to Everett's auction in central Indiana....you can buy all the R-62s you want for about 12 grand....those prices for N's are ridiculous I don't care if they come with heads
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Originally posted by Tncropsman Tncropsman wrote:

I saw that R62 for 18K. I was trying to stay away from the Deutz Air cooled. Not that I don't think they are ok but I am cautious on not knowing who had it before and how they were maintained. Right or wrong thinking?? A lot of guys I talked to also say to get at least a 96 model b/c that's when they lengthened the shoe and it made them so much better. What's your thought their? Their is a 97 model RWA with 24 ft head on tractor house for 32K but that's getting on up their for my size operation.

Clay

Yes the longer shoe is better, and I would take the cummins over the deutz, since there 20 some years old and you don't know the past maitinence record. But I was just comparing the price of the N6 you talked about, compared to the R62 price.
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When is their an auction coming up? I'd say you have to inspect them pretty good??

Let me know on some auction dates I'd appreciate it.

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They have one every month . There next one is Aug. 7th.
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