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Gtown62 
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Posted: 03 Jul 2015 at 12:10pm |
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Hi all, I have a series 3 D17 with a loader and love it. I use it to make about 400 small square bales of hay each year. I want to make a switch to round bales and continue to use the D17. I am definitely not looking for anything new or fancy. I would like nice tight bales that I can stack in the barn though. Anyone know a reliable baler model that should look for? I see that there are a lot of Vermeer 504c units out there... Or New Holland 850.
I also see that there are two different kinds of older balers. Ones with chains and ones with belts. What is easier to maintain and more reliable? What will my D17 run?
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Josh
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DougS
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Posted: 03 Jul 2015 at 12:15pm |
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This was covered a couple of weeks ago. Look up the PTO HP requirements of whatever baler you are interested in. You'll probably need to stick to a smaller round baler.
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Mike NEIN
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Posted: 03 Jul 2015 at 1:16pm |
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I'd say your best bet for a 17 would be a New Holland 630.
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kev/ont
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Posted: 03 Jul 2015 at 3:39pm |
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Unless you are planning on getting more hay to do, i would hire it done. 400 bales translates into 25-30 4x4 bales. Cost you $250 bucks to have it done. Save you a whole lot of trouble.
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Posted: 03 Jul 2015 at 6:03pm |
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The vermeer balers can run on lower hp and also the hesstons. I've also heard m&w can. That tractor should run a 4x4 and maybe some 5x4's. I've also heard good things about krone balers being able to run with lower hp.
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Posted: 03 Jul 2015 at 9:30pm |
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Just remember your Series III has the high pressure low volume hydraulics. This means that the rear door on the baler will open very slowly. Lots of waiting at 1.5 gpm (compared to 10).
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Posted: 03 Jul 2015 at 9:49pm |
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We ran our krone kr130 for years with our D17IV diesel it always made tight bales, i wouldnt go with a hesston they are cheap but they dont make a very tight bale
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Posted: 03 Jul 2015 at 10:24pm |
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Where are you located?
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terryinmo
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Posted: 04 Jul 2015 at 6:47am |
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We ran a case ih 8430 same as a hesston 540 for years with or d17 series 2 very low maintenance.
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Gtown62
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Posted: 04 Jul 2015 at 1:30pm |
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Thanks for the replies. I found the other thread about older round balers helpful as well. I am located in Dayton, Ohio.
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victoryallis
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Posted: 04 Jul 2015 at 1:50pm |
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25-30 years ago neighbor could really crank out a lot bales with a 160 and JD 510 baler. Another neighbor has a smaller CIH baler that makes very nice bales.
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Posted: 04 Jul 2015 at 4:24pm |
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Used to pull a Vermeer 605C with a D17 series 4. It would let you know it was back there in the hills. A 504C should be fine on power but the hydraulics will be a problem.
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Posted: 04 Jul 2015 at 5:43pm |
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Just a note, case 84XX balers were re-badged hesstons, built in the same factory...
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Posted: 05 Jul 2015 at 9:02am |
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Don't let people scare you away from a hesston baler! I have one a 560, neighbor has the case ih version of the 565 and my uncle has a 550. All have been great trouble free easy to bale with machines.
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Posted: 05 Jul 2015 at 10:38am |
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Unless you already have a high volume hydraulic pump on the tractor, stick with your current bailer. I think otherwise you will be creating more problems than you solve. Unless of course you won the lottery, then go for it.
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Posted: 05 Jul 2015 at 9:07pm |
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Posted: 06 Jul 2015 at 7:36am |
No matter which baler you purchase, you MUST HAVE a WATER FIRE EXTINGUISHER.
Baling hay without a water fire extinguisher is not worth the risk. When a bearing fails, a tremendous amount of heat is generated. This heat can ignite the bale. Water is the only fire extinguisher which can penetrate the bale enough to reach the fire.
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