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    Posted: 20 Jun 2015 at 10:19am
A friend of mine has been kind enough to give me a very good deal on a 9 foot Allis trailer disk. Tires look good, disks look fair and he said he converted the bearings over to greasable by drilling holes and adding zerks. It looks like a newer model, as it has the triangular Allis logo on the decal. It also has two hydraulic lines running to the transport cylinder. Can I switch this to work with the one way hydraulics on my D 17? If I just add a breather to the one side of the cylinder will the weight of the disc be enough to retract it?
Also, he is near Peoria and I am in northern Minnesota so I need to figure way to get it up here. I have a single axle trailer but I'm worried about the weight. Does anyone know approximately how much a disk like this would weigh?
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You can take the one hose out and add a breather, google cintered muffler

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It might be stretching it to use a single axle for the disc, not sure what it weighs, but will take up some space. Keep in mind it will probably have to set crossways on the trailer with the hitch removed to get under 8 feet.

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We have the sintered mufflers in stock at my work, so I can get them pretty cheap. My trailer is 6' x 10' so we figured we could take the hitch off lay it sideways and we would have a couple inches hanging out over the end. So I guess maybe it is a 10' foot disk. I'm just worried about having a overloaded trailer for 500 mile trip. 3000# axle leaves me under 2000 lbs for cargo. And I would rather not run it right up to the limit for a trip that far. By the time I get home I think I'll have more into hauling cost than I have into the disc. We can't meet him halfway either because we have no way to transfer.
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You might borrow a tandem axle trailer from a buddy of yours. I'd rather be safe than sorry.  Rick
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Looking at pics from Norm's book, it looks like it is a 200 series. Weight looks like around 2000 give ir take so my trailer is out.
Looks like this disc has the dreaded Bal-Pak bearings. If I remember right these are hard to get and really expensive.
Crap.
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Creek...It sounds like you're trying to talk yourself out of getting it! LOL! But you're right...there are other ones out there.   Rick
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No, I am going to get it. Just a matter of how and when. He is a good friend and is setting a more than fair price. He says the bearings are tight now, and I've only got a couple 3 acres here that I farm so it should last me a long time. I have a king cutter three point 6 1/2 foot disc that I use now and I hate the damn thing. Or I should say King Kutter – it's not a bad disc it's just That King Kutter is such a pain in the butt to deal with when you need parts. And I think a trailer disc would help cut through this heavy clay and rocks I have a lot better than a three point.
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I think you'd be fine with a 3000# axle. load the disk toward the front and part of the weight will be on the truck anyways.
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