190XT D

I just purchased an early 190XT Diesel off a farm where it had been sitting for a while. Oil pump is bad, but the story is that it ran well until the pump issues. I see lots of possibilities for other major problems with it, but here's the plan: I have found a pump and will purchase it next week. We're going to pull the caps and look at main and Rod bearings and do a presure test on the cooling system. If all this checks out, we'll check out the top end, button her up and give her a go. I have very little money in it and am hoping to get it going on a relatively small budget. I want to fix it to use and enjoy. Would appreciate your good wishes and any thoughts or advice you want to share as I go to resurrect this pretty ole gal.


Edited by JPOKC - 18 Jun 2015 at 10:04pm

Hopefully the transmission does not jump out of any gear.  If so, there is a $2500 (give or take) rebuild.

I would have to agree with Mack.  Never heard of oil pumps crapping out on the 301s.

Keep your fingers crossed and good luck.

Well, I am going to wish you the best of luck with it. If'n it works out, you will have a very fuel efficient, enjoyable tractor that is well suited for many jobs, big and small. Darrel

Hi JP!

Thanks, Everyone for your thoughts and good wishes!

More of the story: This is my first A-C, but I grew up on red and mostly green tractors. I got this one off a farm in Ada, Ok. There was a running G1000 Moline that had the tires burned off it or this tractor available. I chose the Allis. The man who owned the tractor before me died in a house fire in January. I bought the tractor from his son-in-law who is trying to clean up the property and get his family to the place where they can move on. Before he died, the gentleman had pulled pan and pump. I'm hoping because of low oil pressure. When I saw the tractor for the first time, the pump was laying in the pan and would not turn. I am hoping that is only because it rusted in the weather. The family claims that it was running when he parked it there and tore into it. I'm hoping we find that we can roll in some new bearings and solve the oil pressure issue and get this old girl going again. The deceased gentleman's daughter struggled with seeing the tractor leave and I assured her that my plan was to take it home to fix and use/enjoy and restore over time. Hopefully more news will come over time.

Question: If we visually inspect the bottom end and put the pump on, will it hurt anything to fill it with oil and pull it it in gear to see if it gets any oil pressure? Will that even tell us anything?

Jim,
I can't get the add that you posted to open, but I believe that it is the one.
Josh

If it's for sure a 190, pulling it in gear will not make the engine turn over. It has to have hydraulic pressure to the hand clutch. Wish you the best of luck getting her back going again.
Leon B

Update: You more experienced and wiser A-C guys called this one from the get go. This weekend I had a little time to work on the 190XTD. I crawled up under it and pulled a rod cap. The oil pump was bad and the engine has unquestionably been starved for oil. The bearing was spun and it looks to me like there was a fair amount of metal transfer. I have priced over haul kits, etc. and have decided to go with another engine I have found that will work for this application and is reasonably priced. At this point, I'm trying to get my ducks in a row and get her split so I can get this project going. Even in this situation, I'm still feeling pretty fortunate with this old tractor. Any advice for unique things to look for as I move forward?
Many thanks!
Jp