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LJdoc 
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Posted: 22 Feb 2015 at 7:08pm |
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Hi, New member, working on my 40th tractor, this one is a 1963 d17 series 111, and up front I got a lot to learn. My question is about the Power Director clutch. Have a problem with adjustment,no matter where handle is it wants to go,has not a neutral, tring to read about adjustment, never done it, if that is my problem, any help would help, thanks.
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Johnwilson_osf
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Posted: 22 Feb 2015 at 7:12pm |
Welcome to the forum. There is a lot of excellent knowledge on this forum, but unfortunately I cannot comment on your D17. There are a bunch of other members that will be able to answer all of your questions. John
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Posted: 22 Feb 2015 at 7:16pm |
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Thanks John, been looking through old forums hoping to find the answer, lot of pages.
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Posted: 22 Feb 2015 at 7:17pm |
You have 40 tractors!?  Welcome to the forum! Some of the guys that know these tractors inside and out will probably be along shortly to answer your question.
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LJdoc
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Posted: 22 Feb 2015 at 7:20pm |
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Woops, not wanting to mislead, sorry, in my life have had that number, bought used fi up and trade, only have 3 at the now, nice hobby. thanks.
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Posted: 22 Feb 2015 at 8:21pm |
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Someone could have tried to pull some shims out of clutch pack and didn't know that they need to put them back in the center of pack to keep overall thickness
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Posted: 22 Feb 2015 at 8:27pm |
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Have not looked inside as of yet,getting my courage up, tring to fine a place for new parts before I dig into it in case I need them, but am collecting, and reading as much as can before I DO. THANKS
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Posted: 22 Feb 2015 at 8:40pm |
 If it is not up to operating temp. it will want to go when in neutral.
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Posted: 22 Feb 2015 at 10:02pm |
Thanks, will be 15 below 0 in morning, temps not above single digets excpt today, so have been concerned of hurting the cluches by running it till warmer. Levers won"t hold in place but do some when warmer, maybe just have not warmed up enough? 
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Posted: 22 Feb 2015 at 10:35pm |
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The neutral position will always creep when the oil is COLD! You do not need to take it apart! You will not hurt the clutches by running it in cold weather either. The power director clutch runs in oil and is one of the most reliable range changers on the market. NONE of my tractors have ever been touched.
Put it to work for a good hour so that the oil warms up - it will not move as much in the neutral position. If it still moves a lot at that time, the position of the hand clutch can be adjusted to help minimize movement (without taking anything apart). IF the lever jumps out of high range, just remove some washers from the stop bolt that is near the shaft.
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Posted: 23 Feb 2015 at 6:22am |
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Thanks, will certainly try this, may wait for a warmer day than today, weatherman says up to 32 degrees this coming weekend for 3 or 4 days. Hope this d17 turns out to be as nice a tractor as my d14 has been. Thanks again. LJDOC
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Posted: 23 Feb 2015 at 6:47am |
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if you want a good parts source, try Sandy Lake Equip, a site sponsor...
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Posted: 23 Feb 2015 at 8:45am |
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Ok, will check Sandy Lake Equip out, thanks a lot.
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Posted: 23 Feb 2015 at 9:24am |
I found this to be very informative.....with th manual and this, you should be able to do the job, if it comes down to that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHuIzQy8xK4
If a picture is worth a thousand words, what's a movie worth?
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Posted: 23 Feb 2015 at 11:48am |
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OK, Brian, thanks for the info.
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Posted: 03 Mar 2015 at 4:57pm |
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Hi again. Have been working on carb and electrical on d17, got engine running good today, Now to the Power Director Clutch, Not knowing what the previous owner put in the clutch for oil, checking it it is a thick milky color, looks like maybe hydrolic. Want to change it and filter but not sure what the best to put in it, so that is my question for today, what is the best oil to fill it with?
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Posted: 03 Mar 2015 at 5:04pm |
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Non detergent 20w was the original spec but can be hard to come by. Try aw32 hydraulic oil
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Posted: 03 Mar 2015 at 11:37pm |
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I found 20w at TSC. This is the oil I use in oil bath air cleaners.
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