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Zyta 
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Posted: 28 Mar 2010 at 5:22pm |
Does anyone else have one of these Blacksmiths Grinders that run off a wide belt system. Has anyone rigged one up to work with a regular electric motor? anyone know anything about these? 
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Gerald J.
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Posted: 28 Mar 2010 at 5:31pm |
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You could probably drive it with a V belt on the flat pulley. Might want to go to a B for a bit more working surface. You can still concoct flat belts for that matter, though you'd like to run that shaft about 3000 RPM for 8" MODERN wheels. Needs guards to catch the fragments when a wheel comes apart. Or you could probably take the tops off the bearings and take at least one wheel off and slip on a modern V belt pulley in the middle. Still needs guards. I kind of like that sturdy rest though. Looks like it has had a guard and has holes to mount guards.
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Zyta
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Posted: 28 Mar 2010 at 6:05pm |
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Yes it has a really sturdy base.. not sure if it ever had guards. I doubt it ever ran at 3000rpm.
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Thad in AR.
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Posted: 28 Mar 2010 at 6:09pm |
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I had one similar and ran it with a v belt. It takes quite a motor. I remember how amazed I was at how long the stones would last. They were about 2 1\2 inches wide.
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Posted: 28 Mar 2010 at 6:18pm |
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Yes the electric motor in this old Blacksmith shop is hudge! It ran a pile of pullies, gears etc.. including an old band saw for making wooden pieces for wheels.. Up top in the upstairs of the old shop is a hudge wheel thats spins also to provide power.
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Rick of HopeIN
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Posted: 28 Mar 2010 at 6:24pm |
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we had one on the old farm that ran from a big old motor and flat pulley. Came from the blacksmith shop on a farm up the road.
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Posted: 28 Mar 2010 at 6:28pm |
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I sure would like to see pics of the shop and shaft setup if possible.
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GT in Indiana
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Posted: 28 Mar 2010 at 6:29pm |
Looks really cool... Check the stones very carefully for cracks however. If you attach a motor and run them at 3000 rpm, it's like standing directly in front of a cannon when they come apart. I doubt that unit was intended to go that fast.
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Zyta
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Posted: 28 Mar 2010 at 7:16pm |
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I will take some photos of what left of the old place and post them. It's just down the road from my village. Years ago it was a Blacksmith shop and a Saw mill.
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Posted: 28 Mar 2010 at 7:37pm |
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That old unit probably has babbit bearings and the holes on top are oil holes. those bearings probably wouldn't last long at 3000 rpm.
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Posted: 28 Mar 2010 at 7:38pm |
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Ours ran off a very massive old motor mounted to a timber that leaned against a wall. The belt drive was short, only three feet or so to the pedestal. But I am guessing it was a 1200 or 1800 rpm setup.
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Posted: 28 Mar 2010 at 7:42pm |
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There are folks that play with that stuff. You might start here and look thru the links.
http://www.indianablacksmithing.org/
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Posted: 28 Mar 2010 at 7:43pm |
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Those wheels should be "ring tested" before running to check for cracks.
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Calvin Schmidt
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Posted: 28 Mar 2010 at 7:46pm |
Jim, that grinder likely ran off a line shaft. It likely was not intended to run at 3000 rpm.
Be carefull. I saw you lurking around Stratford this afternoon.
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Zyta
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Posted: 28 Mar 2010 at 8:26pm |
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Hi Calvin, yes I was in Stratford my oldest daughter had soccer practice plays for the Strikers.
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Posted: 28 Mar 2010 at 8:29pm |
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Yes this grinder did run off a line shaft connected to a massive electric motor..I will try and post some pics
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Posted: 28 Mar 2010 at 8:42pm |
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Allis Chalmers made many of the carriers used to hold a line shaft. Maybe you have some old Allis equipment in that old shop.
I have a 1934 South Bend lathe that runs off a line shaft. I power the line shaft with an electric motor and drive the flat pulley with a v belt.
Edited by CTuckerNWIL - 28 Mar 2010 at 8:48pm
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