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    Posted: 03 Sep 2012 at 10:47pm
Hello. Could anyone tell me if this hydraulic pump/reservoir is an allis chalmers accessory or an aftermarket company??  Its on a WC.
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Haven'tr seen one like that before.

Might be easier to rationalize if you rotate the picture.  I downloaded it though and opened it and it came up right...weird.

Does the PTO go through the unit to the back?


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Originally posted by Byron WC in SW Wi Byron WC in SW Wi wrote:

Haven'tr seen one like that before.

Might be easier to rationalize if you rotate the picture.  I downloaded it though and opened it and it came up right...weird.

Does the PTO go through the unit to the back?
 
 
I don't think it goes through to the back.
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Thats a add on unit. Pump is inside the resevoir tank. I believe the Char-Lynn company made those for the wc's, not sure if their intended purpose was for a hydraulic source for loader operation or just to have hydraulics period
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It is a  Char-Lynn  pump they were used to put hdy. on older tractors. The most were WC & Oliver tractors. The one I used to own used non detergent oil in it. The one I owned was on a WC with a loader on it.
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Seen alot of them on D JD here in the plains country.
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That is a Char-Lynn. hydraulic system. The mup and control valve are built into thetank. The other side should have a shaft sticking out with a control lever sticking out. It was a universial system used on many older tractors to add hydraulics, for a loader. Runs on a standard 540 RPM pto.
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Thanks for the replies everyone. Another ? now... Does it add any extra value to the tractor? Or are they something thats fairly common?
 
 
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The few that I've seen sold did not increase the value of a WC. The unit by itsself will probaly sell for more than the tractor and unit together. You lose the use of the PTO to get a part time low pressure  low volume hydraulic system. not a very usefull tradeoff, unless its just for show or parade duty. Quiet a few were made but they are geting scarce since when they stop working it cost more to repair then its worth. the last working unit I saw sold for $500. it came off a WC  with a loader that was bought for $350.
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I like the way this one is mounted.
It's from the GOTO in CA a few years ago.

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We had one that looked similar on our wc. It attached directly to pto stub out of the pto box underneath the tractor. It operated a montgomry wards loader. don't know what co made the hyraulic unit. I still have sore spots from operating that tractor. Bill
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Looked at original photo again. Mine was located same place. Picture didn't click until I looked again. Bill
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Got up on my desk and laid on my left side to orient the picture correctly, and it is a Char-Lynn unit. Seriously I have a 35 WC to restore that has this same unit on it for hyd power. When looking at the picture the right side of the picture is down, and the left side is towards the front of the tractor. Mine powers a Sears Roebuck loader, which amzed me because I thought all of Sears tools were David Bradleys. Hmmm, the things you learn messing with old stuff!
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Originally posted by Dipstick In Dipstick In wrote:

Got up on my desk and laid on my left side to orient the picture correctly, and it is a Char-Lynn unit. Seriously I have a 35 WC to restore that has this same unit on it for hyd power. When looking at the picture the right side of the picture is down, and the left side is towards the front of the tractor. Mine powers a Sears Roebuck loader, which amzed me because I thought all of Sears tools were David Bradleys. Hmmm, the things you learn messing with old stuff!
 
Here is this better?? I wouldn't want you to fall off your desk and get hurt.  Big smile
 
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we had the same unit on our wd with a new idea horn loader only dad moved it to the left side split a sprocket and welded it back together around the pto shaft and drove it chain drive that left the pto open  the left side of those units had a single action valve (power up gravity down ) righi side was dual action (power up and down ) that thing picked up lots of stuf it shouldnt have
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