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JayIN ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 18 Dec 2009 Location: SE/IN Points: 1982 |
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I guess I am a little homesick for days gone by........Anybody have any pics of corn chopping with A-C equip? Its that time of year!
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sometimes I walk out to my shop and look around and think "Who's the idiot that owns this place?"
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jb from md ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Apr 2010 Location: Keymar MD Points: 450 |
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all i have is this one,stopped to eat some lunch and snapped it. i have some old ones but ill have to scan them.
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8050 FWA, 190XT, 185, Styled wc, Unstyled wc, (2)C, (2)WD45NF, WD45WF, WD,416h, 716h, 312h, 8070 pedal.
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VF Farms ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 24 Jan 2012 Location: Pana, IL Points: 264 |
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We had a chopping crew come in and do ours but we had our 8030 on the blower
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3-8550,7580,8070,8030,7010,7000,210,2-D21,2-D19,4-D17,wd's and wc's and old farm equipment
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Dipstick In ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Remington, In. Points: 8602 |
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I was talking to my 20 year old grandson last nite, Adam works for a farmer that contracts the manure disposal at dairies and some hog farms, and with the dairy farms chopping silage they can applicate rinse water and manure now. The tanks hold in the neighborhood of 500,000 gallons, and the dairies re-fill at the rate 0f 125-150,000 gallons per day. Yesterday he drove about 350 miles, with the trips only being about 4 miles, dairy to field. He drives a 377 Pete with a tank trailer, and fill time and empty time is something like 5-10 minutes.He guesses they will empty out about November.
Didn't mean to hijack the post, but just thought this was interesting.
p.s. bad thing is they use some kinda green tractor with yellow wheels!
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You don't really have to be smart if you know who is!
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Don(MI) ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Sep 2009 Location: Michigan Points: 3851 |
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Last year, made a few rounds. Uncle did most with 190
[TUBE]F-QTZQG_b7Y&feature=channel&list=UL[/TUBE] Edited by Don(MI) - 27 Aug 2012 at 7:42am |
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Galatians 5:22-24
"I got a pig at home in a pen and corn to feed him on, All I need is a pretty little girl to feed him when I'm gone!" |
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DonDittmar ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Sep 2009 Location: MIllersburg, MI Points: 2505 |
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Don, what turbo do you run on your D19?
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Experience is a fancy name for past mistakes. "Great moments are born from great opportunity"
1968 D15D,1962 D19D Also 1965 Cub Loboy and 1958 JD 720 Diesel Pony Start |
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Don(MI) ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Sep 2009 Location: Michigan Points: 3851 |
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I can't remember for sure don, I believe its a rayjay turbo, it used to have a thompson on it. I have a new 'air research' turbo I bought new, it lays on the shelf now, because it DOES NOT sound like the older turbos.
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Galatians 5:22-24
"I got a pig at home in a pen and corn to feed him on, All I need is a pretty little girl to feed him when I'm gone!" |
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JimIA ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Castalia Iowa Points: 1983 |
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Heres a few for ya.
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JimIA ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Castalia Iowa Points: 1983 |
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Found some more.....
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btred1466 ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 12 Jul 2012 Location: Magnolia, OHIO Points: 205 |
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Is that a one ninety xt? Awesome pics!
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Michael (WI) ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Larrabee, WI Points: 815 |
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Here are a couple of pictures from 2005 before I rebuilt and painted the chopper. I also found a two row narrow cornhead for it too, but of course it needs a full rebuild.
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DonDittmar ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Sep 2009 Location: MIllersburg, MI Points: 2505 |
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AHHHHHHH The memories. Dad either chopped with a 780, or a New Holland 717 hooked to either a D17 or our MF 180 Diesel. Dad set the timing on the D17 "by ear". Chopping at night the muffler on the D17 would glow red
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Experience is a fancy name for past mistakes. "Great moments are born from great opportunity"
1968 D15D,1962 D19D Also 1965 Cub Loboy and 1958 JD 720 Diesel Pony Start |
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JimIA ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Castalia Iowa Points: 1983 |
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Yes that is a Series III 190XT. We used that setup until two years ago when the neighbor quit milking. It was fun to run!
The other pictures were up at Steam Engine Days in Mabel MN where we chop some corn from time to time. Heres a video from Mabel, someone will have to get the link posted correctly. Im doing something wrong today. <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/wOCspD44GVI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> |
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Rfdeere ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Idaville, IN Points: 3283 |
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Here ya go, Jim:
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Randy Freshour,Member Indiana AC Partners,
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carl ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Chicago Points: 136 |
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I don't have pictures here with me but many good memories of silage chopping. Our first chopper was a 4-knife NH which would give the 45 all it wanted, especially if you were pulling an almost full wagon up a hill. Then we got a decent chopper, AC lawnmower type that chopped better and faster than the old NH or my uncle's Gehl, used much less power, and was a dream to sharpen knives (5 minutes vs. 2-3 hours on the others). The 17 was a great chopper tractor, but when we went to a 3 row head on a 780 we used the XT. It was hard to keep up with that using three wagons, had an AC blower at the silo as well. All of that was excellent equipment that served well for years. We hated to see that era end, but of course everything got bigger, and the AC choppers were pretty much maxed out at 100 hp. But in their day they were the best.
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Allis dave ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 10 May 2012 Location: Northern IN Points: 2990 |
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I'm only 27 so I don't remember the old days of chopping, but still my favorite job on the dairy and grain farm was chopping corn and hay. We used a JD 4440 and Hesston chopper. No cows for about 4 years now so no more chopping :(
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Nathan (SD) ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Day County SD Points: 1275 |
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Using a chopper hooked to a tractor IS the old days of chopping.
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Gary ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Peterborough,On Points: 5890 |
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Gary ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Peterborough,On Points: 5890 |
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FloydKS ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: S E Kansas Points: 8352 |
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thanks fo rthe memories...it is even the right time of the year to remember blowing it up into the silo...but then you had to fork it out all winter, but that is memories too.
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Allis dave ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 10 May 2012 Location: Northern IN Points: 2990 |
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The old days of chopping I hear about is when Grandpa's JD 70 didn't have enough power to run the chopper and pull the chopper and wagon in the low soft ground with tall corn. My uncle's first driving experience was about 4 years old pulling the 70 in neutral with the little Ford 600 tractor. If my little uncle had trouble Grandpa would just push the brakes and the Ford would just sit and spin.
Then about a week after silage came ear picking with the JD 4020 and New idea 2-row picker! Almost just as fun.
I know... I'm talking about John Deere's a lot here and am bracing for comments why the 70 didn't have enough power to pull the whole outfit. LOL Edited by Allis dave - 31 Aug 2012 at 8:05am |
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KGood ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Nov 2009 Location: Logansport,IN Points: 955 |
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I've heard that the 2 bangers were not good for PTO work. I seem to here alot of not enough power period on those. I think the only reason they pull anything is they have a granny gear,38 inch tires and weigh alot.
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DonDittmar ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Sep 2009 Location: MIllersburg, MI Points: 2505 |
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A 2 cylinder JD engine does not have a variable speed governor, it is a constant speed governor. There is no operating range (RPM) for the motor, they are designed to run at wide open throttle(which is PTO speed) and anything less than wide open is considered lugging the engine(taken right from the JD operators manual for my 720D) With that said, if you are running a PTO implement and hit a tough spot and the engine speed drops, not only does the RPM's drop to a point where you are lugging, the PTO spedd drops considerably as well.
Like what was said before, not good for PTO work.
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Experience is a fancy name for past mistakes. "Great moments are born from great opportunity"
1968 D15D,1962 D19D Also 1965 Cub Loboy and 1958 JD 720 Diesel Pony Start |
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