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    Posted: 18 Jul 2012 at 8:48pm
Hey everyone new guy here. I am interested in Allis Chalmers tractors so I thought I would stop by and see what I could learn. I am looking at a D-15 Series 2, if anyone could share their thoughts on this tractor I would appreciate it. I will put a pic in of the tractor I am looking at any info on that tractor would be appreciated. I will be baling hay with it and bush hogging. Are these reliable tractors? and can you get parts for them?

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Here is the other side.
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How can you tell if it has power steering? I looked it up on Tractor facts and it looks like this was a good selling tractor. I am seriously thinking about picking this tractor up, all I have ever know is Fords, but I want to try something different.
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If you look right below the distributor there is the power steering pump. Tractor looks great. They are great tractors, Some have noisy rearends due to the gear wear and clearance. Some jump out of 3rd gear. I have had a couple a diesel and a gas. Very handy. You will love the power director... Lot more guys on here with them.. they will have more to say.
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Thanks for the reply, what is the "power director"? This tractor is supposed to be right, I am going to have to test it out.
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It isn't listed but from what I can tell this tractor has a gas engine, I don't see a large diesel type filter anywhere on it.
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As you sit on the tractor it is the "stick" as some call it on the right hand side. It is a high low range. You can pull it back on the go to lower gear or push it forward on the go for higher gear. Kinda like the torque on a farmall. I would give it a good test drive. One other thing.. when the power director lever is in the middle, it is a neutral, and when the pto is engaged it acts as the live pto. Another couple notes. As I said the tractor looks great, but is not all "original" Looks to be missing the side shields under the gas tank, most do, and the wheels should be 24" power adjust wheels. Doesnt mean the tractor wont function, but Thats not the way it came from the Big Orange. If it runs and operates like it looks Id buy it..
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Originally posted by PlayGun PlayGun wrote:

It isn't listed but from what I can tell this tractor has a gas engine, I don't see a large diesel type filter anywhere on it.
That's a gas tractor, it has a carb.
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OK experts out there, is this a series II or did somebody put different decals on it? The Oval muffler doesn't go down thru the hood like series II muffler.
 For a test drive, run it to full throttle going down hill and close the throttle to put maximum back pressure on the transmission gears. This will make it pop out of gear if things aren't up to snuff in the tranny and can get pricey to fix. Throttle up and down in both the high and low side of the power director to make sure it stays engaged .
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Make sure the brakes are OK before the pop-out-of-gear test. Wink
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Looks pretty clean , but no power adjust rims on back, muffler ? as Charlie Pointed out. Headlights on fenders makes me wonder. Drive it downhill as others have said.If it jumps out of gear or power director pops out under a load may have some i$$u$es. Why would they go to all the trouble to make it look as good as it does without a few details that would make it more sellable. Still a very clean nice looking tractor.Ones that look as good as that usually bring good money 4-5 grand.
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Originally posted by CTuckerNWIL CTuckerNWIL wrote:

OK experts out there, is this a series II or did somebody put different decals on it? The Oval muffler doesn't go down thru the hood like series II muffler.
 For a test drive, run it to full throttle going down hill and close the throttle to put maximum back pressure on the transmission gears. This will make it pop out of gear if things aren't up to snuff in the tranny and can get pricey to fix. Throttle up and down in both the high and low side of the power director to make sure it stays engaged .
ooohhh you have sharp eyes Charlie, good observation!
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26 inch power-adjust wheels, not 24's............tractor was polished up nice ......
 
 
hood latches are incorrect, but lights on fenders are correct, but missing the rear light...


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He is asking 4900 for it, I am going to try to get it for 4000 if everything runs good on it. I will print out the responses you guys have left to make myself a check list. It looks really good, but I would rather have a cooker not a looker. If you guys know of any others in my area let me know if you don't care, d14 would be fine too, maybe even a 45. I am just going to be square baling hay and bush hogging a small farm. What is the smallest AC I can get away with to square bale hay on rolling pastures? I am open to all suggestions, thanks again guys.
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Here are 2 more pics. The guy says this is an early 60's series 2, they didn't make the series 2 until the late 60's did they?
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I found what I believe is a correct D-15 series II tractor. Correct me if I'm wrong guys, but I see the differences.
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That kind of worries me, if this guy doesn't know what he has or he does and he is misrepresenting it, that would bother me. Maybe all that pretty orange paint has blinded me,lol. Like I said if you guys know of another size tractor that would do me a good job please feel free to express your opinions.
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After studying more I believe I could get away with a D-14 for a little less money, they have power steering and can pull a 3 bottom 14p from my research. Is this right guys.
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First question I have for you about the baling hay on rolling hills. Will you have a kicker baler and wagon behind the tractor? If so how big of wagon, 8x16? I have hills and on some the D19 isn't adequate.
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I think i would prefer the D15 over the 14 on those hills with a bailer and loaded wagon.
If that one checks out when you test drive it $4 K  would be a good deal. The original rims were probably rusted out from calcium and they replaced them with combine wheels. For mowing and making hay you don't need power adjust wheels. Would be nice if it had the side shields but that shouldn't affect how it operates.
Just check out the drive train close. And make the owner provide a drawbar. 
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Yep, you really NEED a drawbar with a tractor.
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I could be wrong but i think the 3 point hitch came with the series II. The early D series had snap coupler.
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D15's are an awesome tractor, but if this one doesn't turn out to be quite what you want for the money, I'd look bigger towards a D17 rather than a D14. You could fetch a D17 for probably about the same money as this 15. I see where you said D14's have power steering. That was an option, and in fact I myself have ran accross very few D14's with power steering. I think it was an option on the 17's as well, but every 17 I've seen has had power steering. A D17 in my opinion is just as handy as a D15 OR 14, and has quite a bit more power. Darrel
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3 pt hitch was an option on SerII D-15. I believe that is an aftermarket 3pt hitch. Get a serial number off the front of torque tube housing by motor on left side as you are sitting on it.May have a SerI
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With a $4000 to $5000 budget I'd be looking for a series IV D17. Might not get you a pretty one, but that should buy you a pretty good one in it's working clothes. In my opinion (worth what you're paying for it) would be a better tractor for your plans.
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I would say it is a series II because it has the dry type air cleaner. That is a factory three point, which was optional on both the series I & II, but is more commonly found on series II's. With the missing side covers, combine wheels, new paint, and cheapo decals, I think 4000 would be enough to pay. It depends on whether is is restored, or just repainted. Opinions vary widely on the meaning of restored.
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As far as weight of tractor D14 and D15 are like the same  with in a couple hundred pounds .Now weighting it up would be differant.Little more power out of D15.
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play gun boy. ive seen this tractor before on craigs or the bay. somewhere. the missing wheel stud on the front is the reminder and the combine rims on the back......this tractor stinks up the joint but why i dont know. way to much attention to paint detail, stickers etc. it looks like a senior year vocational school or FFA project. and the price is not reflective of the labor/cost involved to get it where it sets unless absolutley nothing was done to the drive train. likewise, missing drawbar is another clunker......you sure this is not your brother play fun's little project?...was just wondering........
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Lol Bolivar that's a good one, just to let everyone know my name comes from one of the best cutting horses of all time. Guys can't get the guy to message me back with a pic of the top of the hood, now I'm thinking I want a D-17. There is a guy on here selling one is OK, I just don't want to drive that far, not to buy it.
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