This site is not affiliated with AGCO Inc., Duluth GA., Allis-Chalmers Co., Milwaukee, WI., or any surviving or related corporate entity. All trademarks remain the property of their respective owners. All information presented herein should be considered the result of an un-moderated public forum with no responsibility for its accuracy or usability assumed by the users and sponsors of this site or any corporate entity.
The Forum Parts and Services Unofficial Allis Store Tractor Shows Serial Numbers History
Forum Home Forum Home > Allis Chalmers > Farm Equipment
  New Posts New Posts
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login


3pt or Snap Coupler

 Post Reply Post Reply
Author
Message
Knight63 View Drop Down
Bronze Level
Bronze Level


Joined: 28 Jun 2012
Location: Hemlock,MI
Points: 11
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Knight63 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: 3pt or Snap Coupler
    Posted: 28 Jun 2012 at 3:27pm
Hello everybody, I have a 1953 WD and I am trying to decide whether to get a snap coupler, a 3pt, or just leave it as it is. I am 18 years old and this is my first tractor so I know very little about the subject. This tractor will be used for just about everything on my future small farm/homestead. So basically what I want to know is does the snap coupler have any major advantages that would make it a better choice over the avalibility and price of 3pt equipment? Thanks for any help.
Back to Top
Sponsored Links


Back to Top
Mike56073 View Drop Down
Silver Level
Silver Level


Joined: 14 Nov 2010
Location: New Ulm
Points: 154
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mike56073 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Jun 2012 at 3:37pm
First of all, does your tractor have a snap coupler already?  A late WD might have one already.  Even if it doesn't have the lift latches does it have the coupler bell in front of the drawbar?
Back to Top
David Grubb View Drop Down
Bronze Level
Bronze Level


Joined: 14 Sep 2009
Location: Rochester, Il
Points: 133
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote David Grubb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Jun 2012 at 4:06pm
My solution to this was to go with a snap coupler on the tractor , add a SC-to-3 point adapter(Factory AC), and put a fast hitch on the adapter. I can drop off the SC/3 point unit and hook up to a SC implement or hook up to any Cat II 3 point implements.
http://www.speeco.com/products.php?id=209&id2=211&prod=165
Dave
Back to Top
Knight63 View Drop Down
Bronze Level
Bronze Level


Joined: 28 Jun 2012
Location: Hemlock,MI
Points: 11
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Knight63 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Jun 2012 at 4:59pm
No, it does not have a snap coupler.

I was not aware AC made 3 pt adapters. Are they any less expensive than new ones?
Back to Top
WEL(IN&TN) View Drop Down
Silver Level
Silver Level


Joined: 27 Jul 2010
Points: 101
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote WEL(IN&TN) Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Jun 2012 at 5:22pm
Check out the Cross 3 point adapters. They work very well on ACs. Since you will be using a variety of implements you will be better off with the 3 point set up. (My opinion)
Back to Top
DiyDave View Drop Down
Orange Level Access
Orange Level Access
Avatar

Joined: 11 Sep 2009
Location: Gambrills, MD
Points: 54143
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DiyDave Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Jun 2012 at 6:27pm
Snap coupler imp's are 1 hell of a lot easier to hook up, than 3 point hitch imp's.  Also, they allow the traction booster system, to work.  Also an excuse to collect and preserve other AC stuff!  Be sure to get the authentic AC Adapter to 3 point. It, too, will let the TB system work, as it should.
Back to Top
Claus View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 09 Dec 2009
Location: Hebron In
Points: 1154
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Claus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Jun 2012 at 6:35pm
I prefer 3pt equipment but do not like 3pt adapters.  I would insist on a tractor with a factory 3pt hitch or a tractor and implements that are both Snap-Coupler.  When I was a kid my Dad had a D19 with an Abbott 3pt adapter, the geometry was horrible, I remember the grader blade lifting about 12" above the ground instead of at least double that it should have been.  Also many 3pt adapters do not have good anti sway qualities.

Just my opinion and I'm sure I'm in the minority here.  

Edited by Claus - 28 Jun 2012 at 6:35pm
Back to Top
carl View Drop Down
Silver Level
Silver Level


Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Location: Chicago
Points: 136
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote carl Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Jun 2012 at 6:41pm
the primary advantage to the snap coupler (apart from easy hook up to sc implements) is with the plow.  3pt  plows have an inherent disadvantage of not being able to turn as in following the curve in a contour strip.  The sc plows pull from under the tractor in the center and pivot around a single point.  But if you don't have SC equipment available, everything you want is 3 pt hitch. 

Back to Top
Knight63 View Drop Down
Bronze Level
Bronze Level


Joined: 28 Jun 2012
Location: Hemlock,MI
Points: 11
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Knight63 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Jun 2012 at 7:10pm
Thanks for the helpful advice everyone. So far I think I will be getting the snap coupler unless somebody comes around to change my mind. Someday I'm sure I'll be getting a tractor that has a factory 3pt anyway.
Back to Top
JohnCinMd View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 11 Sep 2009
Location: Westminster, Md
Points: 1438
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JohnCinMd Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Jun 2012 at 7:15pm
Also, since it's your first tractor & you want to work it, read up on the safety precautions when using SC equipment, particularly the plows. They'll bite you in the arse, literally & physically.
Back to Top
BrettPhillips View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 11 Sep 2009
Location: Strasburg, VA
Points: 808
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BrettPhillips Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Jun 2012 at 8:48am
I grew up with 3-point equipment, but after buying my D14 and learning about Snap Coupler, I find that I rarely use the 3-point stuff unless there is no option.  For those situations, I have a factory AC 3-point adapter with the optional sway brace attachment.  It works well when I need to use my 3-point sprayer or brush hog, but once you own an AC Snap Coupler scraper blade, plow, etc. you will hate to go back to 3-point.  As Dave says above, SC implements are much easier to hook up, and they are often (but not always) cheaper than 3-point equivalents when you can find them.  While there are some things to look out for (see JohnC's post above), I'm convinced that a properly maintained and complete Snap Coupler hitch is just as safe as a 3-point hitch.
Back to Top
JimD View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level


Joined: 11 Sep 2009
Location: Mounds, OK
Points: 2116
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JimD Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Jun 2012 at 9:08am
Since you are in MI, you are more likely to find Snap coupler equipment.  Here in Oklahoma, I've bought every piece of snap coupler equipment that was for sale.  All 3 of them.  Around here, if you want to work the tractor,  3 point is the only way to go.
As for the traction boost system, we have 2 different hitches that still maintain the use of it. 
If you can find the SC impliments, then go that way.  If not, you will want a 3 point for the convenience of finding the tools to do the job.  The SC impliments will work better, hook up faster, and are more original for the collecting factor.  It's just that here in OK, we never see them for sale.
JimD
Owner of OKtractor.com PM for an instant response on parts. Open M-F 9-6 Central.

We have new and used parts. 877-378-6543
Back to Top
Steve A View Drop Down
Silver Level
Silver Level
Avatar

Joined: 12 Apr 2012
Location: NLP Mi
Points: 246
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Steve A Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Jun 2012 at 2:56pm
I started out with the adapter, then after a while found it was fairly easy to retrofit the 3 pt stuff (old ford rotary mower, discs, rear blade) to snap coupler. Easier and quicker to hook up.
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 11.10
Copyright ©2001-2017 Web Wiz Ltd.

This page was generated in 0.051 seconds.


Help Support the
Unofficial Allis Forum