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JarrodACFan 
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Posted: 25 Apr 2012 at 5:58pm |
Hi everyone, Grandpa has this rotary hoe since he bought his WD-45. (the 45 is long gone) I would just like to know the basics about it, model #, how rare it is, etc. I thought about taking the wings off and putting it on my CA to try it out, but I am worried that it will still be too heavy. Grandpa told me this afternoon that he remembers when they put it on my great grandpa's D15 and if you tried hard, you could lift the front end of the tractor off the ground by hand! It isn't for sale at the moment, but what is it worth if we decided to sell it?     Any info will be welcome! JarrodACFan
Edited by JarrodACFan - 25 Apr 2012 at 5:59pm
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1956 WD45 Narrow Front Factory Power Steering, 1953 WD Wide Front
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FloydKS
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Posted: 25 Apr 2012 at 6:21pm |
Like the one we had as a kid and yes, with the wings it will make a D14 or 15 light on the front...I can not remember if the 17 was light when using the hoe...SO if you took off the wings would make a big difference. I remember 'flying' thru the field and liked it a LOT better than cultivating. don't know price or worth
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Posted: 25 Apr 2012 at 6:25pm |
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I think I'd at least try it without the wings before selling it. I suspect you might be okay, but I don't have personal experience to back that up. No idea on value either.
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Don(MO)
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Posted: 25 Apr 2012 at 6:45pm |
I pull one behind WD45's so your Ca will handle the main two row part of it just fine.
$200.00 and up might be a good starting point.
If you decide to sale the wings let me know.
Don
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JarrodACFan
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Posted: 25 Apr 2012 at 7:09pm |
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Thanks, I don't think grandpa would want to sell the wings separate, Don(MO). Grandpa used it on our Series 4 and he didn't say that it was light, but it may have been. I was looking in Norm Swinford's book and didn't find it, is it in there and on what page?
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1956 WD45 Narrow Front Factory Power Steering, 1953 WD Wide Front
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Gerald J.
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Posted: 25 Apr 2012 at 7:21pm |
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The rotary hoe is generally used at three day intervals after planting. Its most effective at breaking up a crust so the seed can come through and in the process breaks off grass and weed seedlings that haven't yet emerged. Typically it was used two or three times each spring. Its ineffective if the ground is damp.
If pulled fast (like 8 or 10 mph) it picks some weeds up and flings them in the air so they dry, dead.
Its unhandy if the front wheels have little weight because they are critical for keeping the tractor off the crop rows at those high speeds. Slight tilts in the land or the hoe WILL turn the tractor.
Gerald J.
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Posted: 26 Apr 2012 at 5:49pm |
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Consider it sold if you decide to sell.
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Dave in il
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Posted: 26 Apr 2012 at 6:53pm |
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We had one like it with a three point hitch, my dad bought it for the series IV D17. It definatley made the front end light. We'd pull it in road gear and the front end started to come up before the hoe left the ground on the ends. You pulled it into low range kinda balanced it and steered with the brakes, lined up on the next four rows, dropped the hoe and put back in high. After a little practice you didn't need to throttle back. What a fun way to spend a day!
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JarrodACFan
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Posted: 26 Apr 2012 at 8:33pm |
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Thanks everyone, does anyone have an idea on how many were made?
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Posted: 26 Apr 2012 at 8:54pm |
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Dave you brought back memories...I do nt remember perfecting the "no throttle down" method
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Stan IL&TN
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Posted: 26 Apr 2012 at 9:08pm |
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Like Dave we had one that was a 3-point hitch mount and used it with the one-seventy in 7th and 8th gear. You could cover a bunch of ground in short order but had to watch for any ditches or washed cuts in the soil or you may bounce all over the place.
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Posted: 26 Apr 2012 at 10:29pm |
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The only bad thing I remember was the wood block bearings. They were oil soaked hardwood blocks that sandwiched the axle, they had a grease zerk but they seemed to wear out pretty quick. Well that and trying to muscle those wings up.
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Posted: 27 Apr 2012 at 6:57am |
 Dave in il wrote:
The only bad thing I remember was the wood block bearings. They were oil soaked hardwood blocks that sandwiched the axle, they had a grease zerk but they seemed to wear out pretty quick. Well that and trying to muscle those wings up. |
About the wings, could you put a hydraulic cylinder in between those two upright posts in the middle and raise it that way?
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Darrell, Jr. (MN)
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Posted: 27 Apr 2012 at 10:40pm |
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we have 2, one like yours and one that has had the wings removed. One has a snap coupler hitch and the other has a 3pt. The snap coupler 4 section didn't have the hydraulic raise set up, and boy are those wings heavy to raise by hand, but the 3pt 2 section has all those parts and will get changed. I might swap hitches as well making each more tractor appropriate, as our big tractors have 3pts and our smaller ones have snap coupler.
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Posted: 28 Apr 2012 at 6:44pm |
we had pull type hoes only. Once you got into wet ground they would fill up with mud. How many remember digging mud out after getting to close to the wet spot? < id="gwProxy" ="">< jscode="leoInternalChangeDone" ="ifofjsCall==''jsCall;elsesetTimeout'jsCall',500;" id="jsProxy" ="">
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Posted: 28 Apr 2012 at 6:55pm |
Roger Nolin wrote:
we had pull type hoes only. Once you got into wet ground they would fill up with mud. How many remember digging mud out after getting to close to the wet spot? |
Don't remember that as much as wanting to set one on fire after running over beans in an old stalk field.
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Posted: 28 Apr 2012 at 7:47pm |
Roger Nolin wrote:
we had pull type hoes only. Once you got into wet ground they would fill up with mud. How many remember digging mud out after getting to close to the wet spot?
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I thought you just run it down the "hard" road in road gear and it would be clean  I do remember having a BRAND NEW straw hat and I didn't put the string under my chin. The first swipe across the field and it was nothing but a bunch of holes  
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Posted: 28 Apr 2012 at 8:50pm |
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Yes, that hoe is set up for a hydraulic cylinder.
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