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jerrys ![]() Bronze Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Apr 2012 Location: Springfield Mo Points: 12 |
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Hi all!! I am a new owner, and have bought a wd45 mainly for basic bushhogging chores. Before I bought the tractor I went and took a look at it, and it seemed to run ok, but not great (I thought to be expected from a tractor thats almost 60 years old. It had a rythmic poping noise about once every 3-5 seconds. Anyhow, I went to do some cutting with it and using a 5ft hog and in first gear, it seems very low on power to me. It seems to really struggle. I have yet to do a compression test or to check timing or any diagnostics. My question is... A WD45 in good running condition should have plenty of power to bushhog right? I was under the impression that they ought to be able to handle that very easilly. Thanks in advance guys!!
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JimD ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Mounds, OK Points: 2116 |
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Depends on many things, but essentially, yes, it should have plenty of power. Start with a good carb cleaning. When the tractor is loaded and working it draws much more fuel than idling. Clean all lines, sediment bowl, and the carb. Then adjust the valves. Not as hard as you may think. If you need directions let is know. The popping sound a little like a badly adjusted exhaust valve. As the seats wear, sometimes the valve loosens up and failes to seal as well.
JimD
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jerrys ![]() Bronze Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Apr 2012 Location: Springfield Mo Points: 12 |
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I don't think its lean on fuel, it actually puffs black smoke under load. I have leaned it down to where it stops doing that, but the popping continues. I will do a compression test and run a timing light on it this weekend, and im thinking that should tell me what i need to know.
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JimD ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Mounds, OK Points: 2116 |
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I Don't think the 2 tests would reveal a valve that needs adjusting. It might a little, but setting the valves take about 20 minutes including removing hood.
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jerrys ![]() Bronze Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Apr 2012 Location: Springfield Mo Points: 12 |
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yeah I will check the valves if there is no major problems with the timing and cylinder pressure issues. My thinking and experience from the automotive world is that a leaking valve will show up as lower compression on that cylinder. I do understand that at times and under a load they leak more than just with the starter turning it. If I have good compression and fairly even between the cylinders then I will move on to other things and start some double checking such things as valve clearances and such. Is it common for these engines to have extensive cam lobe wear?
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Brian G. NY ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: 12194 Points: 2259 |
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Make sure it's a WD-45.
Lots of WDs have been repainted and "rebadged" as 45s.
The WD will handle a 5' bush hog quite nicely.....but......not quite
as nicely as a WD-45.
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Dave in il ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 Sep 2009 Location: Manville Il Points: 1748 |
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Spark plugs and wires make a big difference too. I'd suggest Autolite or AC plugs for best results. If a WD45 is in good condition a 5' mower should be fairly easy unless you're in 4' tall grass and weeds trying to mow in third gear. Plus check your mower blades, it takes more power with dull blades.
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jerrys ![]() Bronze Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Apr 2012 Location: Springfield Mo Points: 12 |
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I have verified it as a wd45 by the serial and by the shift lever being curved and by not having a side plate on the dist side of the engine, so I feel like it truly is a 45. I took a good look at the cap and rotor and they look good, I know sometimes there can be misfire issues with a bad cap rotor that might cause poor running. while I had the cap off, I checked to make sure the advance was working and it seemed to be. Just think this thing is exceptionally tired and in need of a rebuild. The oil pressure is also pretty poor, I think maybe 5lbs at full throttle when warm. The main thing for me is just that if this tractor in good working order has the power potential to actually bush hog and other normal chores
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Gary in da UP ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: EUP of Mi. Points: 1885 |
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The compression test is a good idea, and checking timing. I'd check the vacuum at the manifold too.Vacuum gauges are inexpensive and good diagnostic tools .
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dallas ![]() Bronze Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Jul 2011 Location: Wi Points: 66 |
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Popping could be bad manifold gaskets
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j.w.freck ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Location: karnack texas Points: 1153 |
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before you start any diagnostics,ck the valve lash on all 4 cylinders.if you have a valve too tight it will give you a false reading.also if you have a low cyl.reading,stake the valves in that cylinder,and see if the compression comes up...
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BoBMeL ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 17 Apr 2012 Location: Maysville NC Points: 22 |
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after all of your diag. tests i reccomend a bottle of sea foam can be picked up at your local store for about 7 bucks put it into your gas tank and fill up completley to top run till empty i do it with my d 12 and it works like a charm. also a good carb clean really helped
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Allis-chalmers wd45 ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Apr 2012 Location: Newton, Nj Points: 1917 |
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I would suspect new manifold gaskets, rebuild the carb adjust float, clean fuel line, make sure there's no use in the tank, adjus points check wiring then see how she runs
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Hubert (Ga)engine7 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Jackson Cnty,GA Points: 6465 |
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A straight WD in decent condition will handle a 6 foot bush hog with no problems. A 45 should just play with a 5 footer.
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79fordblake ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 01 Jul 2010 Location: West Kentucky Points: 829 |
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You for sure have some bugs to work out of the WD45. 5ft mower behind a WD45 seems like a waste of power and fuel to me...I use 7 foot 6.
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jerrys ![]() Bronze Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Apr 2012 Location: Springfield Mo Points: 12 |
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Thanks guys, that helps out to know that these tractors are actually capable of doing this work. Any of you guys know if severely worn camshaft lobes is a common problem on these? I have dealt with that before on a truck that i had and it had similar issues. Have yet to do any testing, but just looking for opinions.
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CTuckerNWIL ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: NW Illinois Points: 22825 |
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I have never heard of the 45's wearing a cam out.
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j.w.freck ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Location: karnack texas Points: 1153 |
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45 diesels will wear out camshafts
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wdforty5 ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 08 Sep 2011 Location: Illinois Points: 163 |
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I pull a five footer in 3rd through near 3 foot tall fescue with no problems. Im with the others who said a 6 foot+ is no problem for a strong running 45.
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wdforty5 ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 08 Sep 2011 Location: Illinois Points: 163 |
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Oh and not to be a smart allek, but check and make sure the brake is not set. I uhhh
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jerrys ![]() Bronze Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Apr 2012 Location: Springfield Mo Points: 12 |
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haha... no brakes definitely not on
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