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cjgrauer
Silver Level Joined: 20 Sep 2009 Points: 76 |
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Posted: 16 Apr 2012 at 5:36pm |
OK, I have orange blood and love Allis Chalmers but I got to say this: Their tie rod system sucks! I have a D-15 and wanted to adjust the front axles back in a couple holes where I think they should be. Everything went really well until I got to the part where you adjust the tie rods. Is there a trick to that? I used heat, penetrating oil, force, lots of cussing, dirty looks, and everything in my shop I could think of and finally ended up ruining on and damn near destroying the other one. What is the deal? One guy told me to use an angle grinder and lengthen the slit on the tube end. That didn't work either and besides it would look like garbage when you were done. What is the best way to free up the tubes?
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GregLawlerMinn
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Lawler, Mn Points: 1226 |
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Heat gun (Oxy-Acetelene torch) is what I used on mine. Also had pipe wrenches to break them loose once the outer tube was red.
Wire brush clean, use a small dia wire brush on ID and use never seize when reassembling. Edited by GregLawlerMinn - 16 Apr 2012 at 6:07pm |
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wfmurray
Orange Level Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Bostic NC Points: 1225 |
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What i did on my B after i had done most of the things you mention plus tieing it to a tree and pulling with D/14 , I put it on piece of railroad iron and started beating with a one pound hammer When you beat on it it will cause outside to strech then turn with pipe wrench . It will tye with getting brake drums of a B . Good Luck!
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Ed (Ont)
Orange Level Joined: 08 Nov 2009 Location: New Lowell, Ont Points: 1273 |
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Don't blame Allis for this one. All tie rod ends are like this esp after 40-50 yrs. I work on trucks a lot. You should try that after a 2-3 yrs. Take the whole assembly off and beat it all around with a BFH. Then they will usually come apart. Try to avoid heat as that will pull all the threads in most cases.
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Lonn
Orange Level Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Location: Назарово,Russia Points: 29781 |
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On the sliding outer tube I just heat and make sure every bit that is in contact with the solid rod has been red hot. Then use pipe wrench. So far it's worked every time. They get never seize going back together.
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nsula_country
Orange Level Joined: 10 Mar 2011 Location: NW Louisiana Points: 218 |
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I second the advice given. Remove complete tie rod assembly. Then heat, spray with penetrating oil, beat on it with a BFH and then pipe wrenches or a vice and a pipe wrench. Once apart, wire brush shaft and as much as you can in the tube. Then coat with a good never-seize like Bostick or Loctite.
Good Luck! CT
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Rayhowling
Silver Level Joined: 02 Jan 2010 Location: Ont. Points: 178 |
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On my 1955 CA which my dad bought and I have had it for the last 40 years the tie rods have not been a problem. The first 20 years we cut our hay, cultivated corn and moved the wheels in and out several times each summer for the different jobs we used it for. We would put just a bit of oil and they never seized on us. I bought a 180 3 years ago and had a awful job to get the tie rods free. Once I had them free I put anti-seize on and now have a hard time keeping them tight. I have used gas to clean the tie rods clean and still have to make them very tight to keep them from sliding.
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Lonn
Orange Level Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Location: Назарово,Russia Points: 29781 |
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I like how IH put notches in the tie rod with a bolt to lock it in place so they can't mover when well greased. I've had to remove grease too on the 190 to keep it from moving. I wonder if there is a tie rod like IH's to fit the Allis?
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