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Muffler for CA

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    Posted: 08 Apr 2012 at 9:20am
I got a muffler for my CA, but I am not sure it is correct. Here are some links to the two I am trying to decide on.

AC-1 (the one I have)
http://www.ruralking.com/muffler-tractor-allis-chalmers-ac1.html
AC-3
http://www.ruralking.com/muffler-tractor-allis-chalmers-ac3.html

I know that they both say they are for a CA, but which one is closer to factory?
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How big is the hole in your hood? Look at the inlet length on both of those, for the one you will need about a 4" hole because the inlet is only 2 1/2" long. If your motor is a low octane motor then it needs an under the hood muffler to be correct.
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We looked and it appears that the hood hole is close to 4". I was more concerned if the bottom of the large part of the muffler should be above or below the hood.
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   Get a WALKER MUFFLER  [ has the bracket that bolts to the manafold-inlet pipe IS  recssed so water cant get in from running down the outside,has nice sound and looks good, you can get them at NAPA STORES    {THERE NOT CHEAP } BUT THEY LAST.  

    #  FOR c/a  22028              # FOR w/d  22043 


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+1 for the Walker muffler. The AC3 is similar to the original, but Stanley's quality isn't as good as the Walker. It won't sound right either. Walker's are pretty much a carbon copy of the original equipment.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Apr 2012 at 8:12pm
I agree on the Walker muffler. Also, a Nelson is a great match. it has all the features the walker  does. Tony Carbaugh offers the Nelson, they are also not a cheapy.
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Of the 2 that you asked about, the AC-3 is the "made to fit" model for the CA, D14 & C15 series 1. These go for about $40.00. Bob
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Are you sure that Walker muffler fits the CA and not the WD/WD45? They look the same but the inlet size is different. Bob

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I already have the AC-1 muffler and it is on the tractor. I think I will just cut it down so it is more like the AC-3. If I would have known that there is so much difference in mufflers, I would have got a better one. Maybe next time!

Thanks for all the advice,
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Reeseholler Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Apr 2012 at 6:47am
The walker number fits a CA. I used the 22028 on mine. That is if you have the gas model and not the distillate. I can't speak for the other, only gas. Mine had a nelson on it when I got it, but opted for the walker this time around. Don't go with a stanley. The walkers are actually welded together and not pressed
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We stock the Walker Muffs. That Amazon.com price is a super price!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote RMD Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Apr 2012 at 1:09pm
I've bought the Walker muffler for the CA/D-10/12 in the past from Rock Auto for about $50 each.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rick Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Apr 2012 at 2:39pm
I've got a brand new Walker muffler here that I bought for my CA,but don't have the tractor any more. It DOES fit the CA and NOT the WD/WD45,since the muffler hole is smaller on the CA for the pipe to fit into. If anyone is interested in it,please email me direct at rickinmo@socket.net . It's never been installed on a tractor...80.00,plus shipping. Rick   Sold!!!

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote allismanamp Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Apr 2012 at 2:48pm
were does one get a nelson muffler nos for a ca. dad had a stanley on his wd 45 and it sounded like  fire crackers were going of inside the the thing and it also made a annoying pinging sound at a low idle he took it of and through the old nelson back on it and it sounded nice and quite and smooth again i have not seen a sight to buy a nelson yet to fit my ca?????? were is this site at. ~AMP~Smile
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The Walker number is 22028 for a CA.  Better pick up a Walker (or Nelson 04566T) while you still can.  The last Walker 22028 that I bought from the auto store had a Stanley AC1 inside the box.  While talking with Steve Fischer at Hutch last year he confirmed that Walker is now outsourcing to Stanley due to cost.  Sounds like the guys here can fix you up.  I keep a stash of NOS and near new units on the shelf for emergencies, lol.
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