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    Posted: 31 Mar 2012 at 4:47pm
what was the compression ratio and psi of a bone stock WD engine when brand new? going to do some maintenance on mine and want to get a read on how worn it is. at what compression would you guys consider a rebuild? oil pressure is still very good
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WD specifications for gasoline version only
5.75 to 1 compression ratio
110 PSI

WD low octane fuel
4.5 to 1 
80 pSI

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I would be more interested in the balance between cylinders than compression pressure.  If all cylinders are the same or close to the same, and oil burning is minimal, run it.
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I'm with Ted; Repair manuals rarely specify an exact compression pressure, but instead,  (usually) indicate that there should be no more than a 10% difference between the readings on the highest and lowest cylinders.

Having said that, I have my WD-45 manual open before me and it states: Compression Pressure (Gas) 125# @ 500 RPM.
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I could care less what the number really is, as long as each cylinder is even and the engine doesn't use oil and oil pressure is acceptable. Remember, compression testers are like speedometers....no two may read exactly the same.
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Then, even 10% difference is unacceptable to you?
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Im with the DR. on this the compression tester I have requires some skill to hold it in the hole while cranking and have found if I repeate the test I often will get a different reading. I also say that engine should have been running and warmed up befor testing.
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my wc only has thirty PSI. granted, it doesn't start real well...
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B26240,
The good ones screw into the plug hole and do not leak.
Not to say they may not vary in accuracy!?
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Originally posted by Glockhead SWMI Glockhead SWMI wrote:

my wc only has thirty PSI. granted, it doesn't start real well...

I bet it's easy to spin with the hand crank though haha! My WC is significantly tougher to hand crank than my B, so I think it has decent compression.
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My compression tester has adapters that screw into the head with an o-ring seal and I find that they are very reproducable but I will agree that there would be some variance between guages.
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I guess I got lucky with mine.  I seem to get very reproducable results.  Maybe 5 or so psi different.  But then testing the same hole over and over is still not going to get perfect results due to oiling, heat, and speed at which the starter spins.
I usually recommend a rebuild around 90psi if the customer isn't happy with power. 125 seems to be a good target number, but I've had 125cu in engines go as high as 150, but I also didn't know what had been done prior to my work.
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