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    Posted: 06 Feb 2012 at 6:15pm

The next project on my list is repairing some D-series gas gauges. I have some new corks ready to go but I am unsure what product was recommended in the past to seal up the cork so it won't get water logged by our savior, ethanol gas. I seem to think it was a liquid product called Seal All, but when I went to ACE Hardware all I found was a semi-solid product by that name in a tube.

Am I remembering the wrong name? What I use needs to be liquid so it can flow into the mounting hole in the middle of the cork.

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Someone posted something about this before. They had a part# from a auto parts store that had a picture perfect replacement for the original cork one. I bought one and it works great. Maybe someone else can remember the store. It was made of plastic. Ryan
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I wonder if a small plastic gas filter could be sealed and attached to the float rod. Just a thought.
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The replacement float was for a model A Ford. Pretty sure it was Charlie that found the float. Mine has a brass float soldered to the arm...
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I've always used this stuff on cork floats

Lowes and HomeDepot used to always have it


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First, thanks for the offers on the corks but I have those in hand already. 

Joe, that is the product I found at ACE...if it is the consitency of silicone sealant like I think it is how do I get it to flow through the hole in the center of the cork float?  I guess I thought it was more of a liquid consistency.  The gauge I am fixing had a perfectly good cork on it, except it had sunk.
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I got a bunch of corks a while back from a model T restoration place they were like 1.80 each and were already sealed, just to let you know , they are cheap and probally cheaper going this way than buying that sealer, they were the perfect size and work great, just look up model T or A gas gauge floats on the internet and you should be able to find them easy enough

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Originally posted by Michael (WI) Michael (WI) wrote:

First, thanks for the offers on the corks but I have those in hand already. 

Joe, that is the product I found at ACE...if it is the consitency of silicone sealant like I think it is how do I get it to flow through the hole in the center of the cork float?  I guess I thought it was more of a liquid consistency.  The gauge I am fixing had a perfectly good cork on it, except it had sunk.


Perfectly good corks don't sink. Only corks that NEED replaced sink.
You can throw away the cork float you have, buy 2 new neoprene floats that will never need sealing and have money left over. The sealer will cost the price of 2 neoprene floats and then you have the time involved messing with them. If you want "originality" pay a buck fifty for the sealed cork floats(model A Ford parts) and save even more money and your time.
 oldstandardautoparts.com has the neoprene float (which is resistant to ethanol) for about 4 bucks.


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SealAll I what I have used and posted here. Its about the consistency of Duco cement. Its not like paint and I don't know what dissolves it. It won't flow, it will just allow itself to be smeared all over the cork and will probably plug both ends of the hole through the middle. It stands up to methanol, ethanol, and gasoline.

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I just stop by the local garage and ask if the have any fuel pump/ sending units that they've replaced. They usually have some unless the trash was recently emptied and I can pull the float off for free. It's neoprene or some other plastic and will never need replaced and the price is right.
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CTucker, I must have missed the whole Model A Ford talk in the past.  I just did a search for a model A neoprene float and it looks like a pretty close fit.  I was not looking forward otherwise to trying to seal the cork floats I have.  I think I will give a neoprene float a try.  Thanks for the info.  Mike
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I have used shellac on mine.
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Originally posted by Michael (WI) Michael (WI) wrote:

CTucker, I must have missed the whole Model A Ford talk in the past.  I just did a search for a model A neoprene float and it looks like a pretty close fit.  I was not looking forward otherwise to trying to seal the cork floats I have.  I think I will give a neoprene float a try.  Thanks for the info.  Mike

 Call Kevin at Old Standard and ask for the neoprene gas tank float for the model A.
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Have replacement floats in stock for D-Series, $10,, plus the ride. www.djstractorparts.com
 
 
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Maybe our fuel in Ohio is formulated differantly but I tried everything listed and more in an effort to keep the cork floats floating in my C6 Zeniths and none worked for more than a few months. This was with both the originals and the repros that used to be around. I could remove the floats and let them dry out for a week and they would again work for a few weeks before sinking, The fix only came when brass floats were adapted to the C6 float hinge.
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Butch, Did you try the neoprene floats? They are supposed to be resistant to ethanol and I've never heard of anybody having trouble with them.
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Originally posted by CTuckerNWIL CTuckerNWIL wrote:

Butch, Did you try the neoprene floats? They are supposed to be resistant to ethanol and I've never heard of anybody having trouble with them.
Charlie I dont recall anyone having them for the C6. We are happy with brass Smile
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Has anyone tried using Red Kote, the gas tank sealer?




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My fuel man gave me the rubber type float off of a broken tank gauge.  It's worked for 6 years in my gas D17.  Jim
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