Identify Plow Update Numbers

I looked over the plow today and I found some numbers.  The moldboard number is 309215 and the frog number is 309241.  Is this for sure a #52 plow? 

 My plow doesn't have the right share on it.  Would it be possible to purchase a new share or did Ben Franklin buy the last one?  I clicked on the link someone posted to research plows but the link was no good. 

Thanks for all the help.

   Your bottom is a #24 right hand with the welded draw rod bracket.    Shares for 14": 308861, 323654, 309270, 308864, 308879, 308880, 309235, 309234, and 308867.

Plow bottoms don't define frames, nor frames define plow bottoms. They were sold independently. Most plow bottoms fit most plow frames and plow bottoms are different for different soils and regions.

That frog number was used in #24 bottoms, 12, 14, and 16", as well as #124 bottom 12 and 14". The moldboard was used only on #24 bottoms 12 and 14".

Making new holes in the frog might be the most practical way to fit a share that has about the right length and the right point angle.

As RFDeere listed, AC offered several different plow shares for different ground conditions and made of different materials. They also often offered narrow cut, normal cut, and wide cut for some bottoms indicating how far past the right bottom edge of the moldboard that the shares extended. But they also made few shares that interchanged between many plow bottoms. But landsides and coulters fit most every bottom. And were offered in several styles and sizes.

Ben Franklin Johnson may have bought the last AC plow share, there were probably some at Scotch Grove Iowa but they were all sold at auction and so far the buyer's haven't spoken up on this forum.

Scouring may surprise you. I had some rusty plow moldboards and attacked them with a flexible flap wheel on a 5" grinder and it took off the rust but the original steel surface was so hard it only polished it. Couldn't cut it.

As I recall seeing your share, it looks good for a lot of wear yet.

Gerald J.

Thanks for all the help guys.  Some very good information.  I've googled the number for shares and haven't came up with anything yet.  I think I'll keep working mine over with a wire wheel and sandpaper to see if I can get it to scour.  I don't have any gravel type soil to pull it through to help clean it.  Mainly just gumbo-ee type dirt that sticks like glue.  I don't think your are as old as Ben Franklin...but you surely must be as wise to have found that share.

   As I listed above, share 309270 is listed for 12" and 14" bottoms. So it is for both, if I am deciphering the book right.

   A bottom is what is below the main frame for making one furrow. The Frog, Moldboard, Shin, Share, and Landslide when assembled would be one bottom. A plow like yours that makes two furrows would be a two bottom, a plow that makes five furrows would be a five bottom for examples.

Would you happen to know the part number and name for the hook or loop that goes on the plow bolt that holds the share on?  This plow bolt goes through the share, through the frog and then has some hook or loop thingy that is attached to a rod.  I think mine is homemade and I'm trying to figure out what it is and what it does.

Indeed, this Forum is the place for great information.  I normally used the Massey YT board so please forgive me.

So if I'm understanding you correctly, the share that should be on my plow would be attached by one plow bolt and by one hook on the share?   Does the share hook "bolt" onto the share or is it made into the share itself? The share that is currently mounted on my plow has two plow bolts and no hook.  Maybe I need to look at it again and take some pictures.  I know this is not the correct share but one someone has modified to fit.  So if I do buy a new share I might have to find a share hook?  I suppose rod and hook parts are long since obsolete?

I took a picture of the plow share bolt.  It looks home made but I don't see why it won't work.
 
 My source for a new share fell through so it looks like I will have to make my old one work.  It's pitted so I'm wondering how it will scour.  I cleaned it as best I could.





Edited by AvillaMO - 27 Jan 2012 at 1:41pm

   I would about bet this plow will work just fine the way it is, if adjusted right.

Edited by Rfdeere - 27 Jan 2012 at 1:49pm

   I don't know if Avilla has used this plow yet, if not plow with it first. Then see if there is a problem ?

   The AC share is held on like this one is, by the hook and that other bolt.   I looked up a MF 165, that would be a 52 Horsepower, 6000 pound tractor. How far can you get your right tire in (center of tractor to inside side of right tire) ?

One last thing on this topic.  I was just wondering how old this plow is?  I'm thinking maybe from the 1950's?

Avilla, going from several decades of moldboard plowing that share will give you very little problem scouring. There is enough pressure and "solid" dirt going over the share that seldom does anything stick even with that pitting. The problem is after it is cut and slides over the moldboard, the dirt becomes "looser" and can start sticking to it. You can't have it too shiny in clay or gumbo, because even then it can and will stick. As has been said take some kind of flat blade to the field and scrape often until you get a polish. I take old hoes, heat the shanks and straighten them to make a tool to clean off the dirt. Works great and my plow tractors will have one tucked in between the frame rails and clutch. 30 0r 40 years of moldboard plowing teaches lottsa tricks just after you run out of cuss words!