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Wil M (NEIA) ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: NEIA Points: 478 |
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Tried to plow corn stalks with my 3 bottom WD plow late this afternoon and kept plugging up with corn stalks. I used my disc and disced the field 6 different ways to try and break the stalks up before I ever tried to plow. I wonder if I may not have my coulters set correct? I turned over a nice furrow but the stalks just kept bunching up around the top of the plow. My coulters look to be set about 3 to 4 inches above the top of the front of the plow lay. Haven't had a chance to check my manual. Thought I would ask here first if this is correct or not. Thanks
Wil Edited by Wil M (NEIA) - 06 Nov 2011 at 8:15pm |
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Dick L ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Edon Ohio Points: 5087 |
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I don't understand what you mean that you have your coulters set 3 to 4 inches above the front coulter.
When the plow is in the ground at plowing depth the coulters need to be in th eground 2 to 3 inches in line or to the outside of the landside an inch or so. They have to be deep enough to cut thru the stocks. If you disc the ground that deep when chopping the stocks it will not work real well. The stocks will then tend to push ahead of the coulters rather than cut thru them.
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wheatbreeder ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Harrow, Ontario Points: 581 |
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the stalks should have been shredded the disk them into the ground
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deereequipment1 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Mar 2011 Location: Southern MD Points: 261 |
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or try bush hogging the field next time, before plowing.
Sometimes the coulters just won't cut the stalks.
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Brian Jasper co. Ia ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Prairie City Ia Points: 10508 |
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I ran into pretty much the same yesterday. I have the coulters set about like Dick says and still got some pretty good balls. I was pulling a 52 series 2-14 plow that I have been using on my CA behind the D17D. More speed seemed to make less plugging, but I thought I was throwing dirt too far in 3rd high. 3rd low was about the same speed as the faster guys were running, a Farmall M with 4 bottoms and an LA Case with 4 bottoms. I didn't look to see if they were 14's or 16's. As expected, the D17 didn't know anything was hooked to it 98% of the time.
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Brian Jasper co. Ia ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Prairie City Ia Points: 10508 |
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The CA probably could have pulled the 2-14 in 3rd most of the time there...
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Gerald J. ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Hamilton Co, IA Points: 5636 |
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Set the coulters down closer to the plow points. Then stop every quarter mile and kick the building corn stalk ball out of the plow. Some plows are bad at plugging with corn stalks and only chopping the corn stalks before plowing will slow plugging. its a lot easier to kick the stalks out before the get solid than after they plug enough to lift the plow.
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Wil M (NEIA) ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: NEIA Points: 478 |
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I am not sure I understand what you mean about "if you disk the grond that deep when chopping the stocks it will not work real well."
Wil Edited by Wil M (NEIA) - 06 Nov 2011 at 8:25pm |
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CTuckerNWIL ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: NW Illinois Points: 22824 |
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Stalks now days are way heavier, with 200 bushel corn, than when these old plows were built and used. They are also tougher and taller. I have had trouble in heavy stalks after they were chopped good. It was like plow a feather mattress. At our working fall show this year most everybody was having trouble plugging in bean stubble. The best thing to do for a plowing show is to chop the stalks and get somebody in there with a big round baler to remove the stalks. If you can't bale them off, at least chop them with a flail chopper first before discing once.
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MACK ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 17 Nov 2009 Points: 7664 |
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If I was going to plow I would not disc first. Tie a piece of #9 wire on plow frame to just infront of mowlboard, about 6' long to cover stocks. MACK
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Dick L ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Edon Ohio Points: 5087 |
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If the disc was run over the ground that much and has the ground loose to the depth you have the coulters set the stocks will tend to push ahead of the coulters rather than cut thru them. Stocks are tuff to cut with anything running over them. If the ground is solid and the coulters are cutting 2 or 3 inches deep the stocks will get cut as it slices into the solid dirt rather than push the stocks down into the loose dirt rather than cut them which causes the stocks to push dirt while mixing them with the loose dirt making a fun project of pulling the stocks out of the loose dirt under the plow.
If that is the case I would forget the plow and use a field cultivator to stir the stocks in at plow depth. School of hard knocks that we all attend or have attended along the way.
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Matt (Jordan,MN) ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Jordan, MN Points: 3799 |
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I had the same problem with my 4 bottom 80 series behind the D19. I got sick of unplugging the plow so i removed the colters. It didn't stop the plugging up but it didn't plug up as often. Matt
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SHAMELESS ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: EAST NE Points: 29486 |
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i you are plowing cross ways from your disk path....that's the problem, if you disk before you plow, make sure you disk the same direction that you will pull the plow thru!
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Wil M (NEIA) ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: NEIA Points: 478 |
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Thanks
Wil
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"Yet there are soulless men whose hand and brain tear down what time will never give again." Anderson M Scruggs
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BobHnwO ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Location: Jenera Ohio Points: 693 |
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Try sharpinin them coulters.
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Why do today what you can put off til tomorrow.
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Dusty MI ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Charlotte, Mi Points: 5058 |
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I plowed at a plow day with many makes and models of plows. It was in the spring and plowing down corn stalks. Everyone was having trouble plugging up but me. I was plowing with my G. That concave coulter on the G plow sure makes a difference.
Dusty
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bradley6874 ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 05 Sep 2010 Location: salisbury md Points: 1349 |
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we run wavey coulters like a notill planter that forcecs them to cut insted of pushing
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