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Toneman1 
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 Topic: D17 Diesel Won't Start!
Posted: 27 Jun 2011 at 12:51pm |
Need a starting point here please. My D17 D Series IV ran perfectly the last time I used it to mow. Yesterday I was going to mow again and it will not start. Turns over just fine, It just will not fire up. I figured the first place to start was the fuel tank and work my way to the injector pump. I would rather not resort to starting fluid with the direct injection type as I have observed many times on this forum.
Also, where can I find the proper fule filters as I figure they will need changing in this process as well.
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Don't worry about the mule going blind, just load the wagon.
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Nathan (SD)
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Posted: 27 Jun 2011 at 1:13pm |
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Is your shot off lever in the correct position? Seen it happen more than once. Start at injector pump with loosening the infeed line. See what kind of flow you got, then work your way back to the tank.
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Posted: 27 Jun 2011 at 1:49pm |
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Do you get smoke?
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Toneman1
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Posted: 27 Jun 2011 at 2:51pm |
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Shut off lever moves the arm on the pump as it should (to the best of my knowledge). And there is absolutely no smoke from the exhaust.
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Posted: 27 Jun 2011 at 3:20pm |
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Pump is not turning on,check linkage.
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Posted: 27 Jun 2011 at 3:34pm |
I agree with Bob something has happened to pump. If it was running ok last time and you pulled shut off to stop it, And now it won't ! With no smoke something happened inside or its stuck in off position? I forget how its made -works inside, I'm sure one of the pump experts will tell you.
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Posted: 27 Jun 2011 at 4:10pm |
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If it has set very long it probably has a stuck metering valve in the fuel housing.
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Brian Jasper co. Ia
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Posted: 27 Jun 2011 at 7:28pm |
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Run position is to the rear on the shut off lever. Napa has the filters, or call Sandy Lake. No smoke says no fuel. They will run maybe a minute with the fuel shut off before it will die. Usually if the governor ring is disintigrating, it will run maybe 10 minutes before it quits. Little bits of governor ring material clog the return line. I would be wondering if the pump is turning. Take the cover off the timing window and crank the engine. You might need someone to crank the engine while you watch. If nothing turns, it's probably twisted the pump drive shaft indicating a seized pump.
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Posted: 28 Jun 2011 at 4:32pm |
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Thanks for pointing me in some direction that makes more sense. I really appreciate the help guys. I will let you know what I find.
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Posted: 28 Jun 2011 at 8:56pm |
sounds like the pump drive to me i have had it hapen to one of my tractors can you get the roosa-master pump drives over there i need one for a IH 660d i by a lot of my parts from USA cheers john
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Posted: 28 Jun 2011 at 9:36pm |
As mentioned before, could be in the pump.
Had the same thing happen to a D-19 diesel, Wouldn't start all the sudden.
Ended up being a stuck valve in the pump.
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Brian Jasper co. Ia
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Posted: 29 Jun 2011 at 7:28am |
 q4016lanz wrote:
sounds like the pump drive to me i have had it hapen to one of my tractors can you get the roosa-master pump drives over there i need one for a IH 660d i by a lot of my parts from USA cheers john |
Welcome John. If you were here in the middle of the U.S., I'd say try Colfax Tractor Parts in Colfax Ia. They ship stuff all over as far as I know. 1 800 284 3001 or 515 674 3001. Find them on the web at colfaxtractorparts.com.
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Posted: 29 Jun 2011 at 8:18am |
Thanks Brian I look them up on the net they have a lot of parts I will ring them tomorow it would be good to get the old 660d going again it is a good tractor in the tractor pulls
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