Dream tractor

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   Someone on the Red board started a thread like this. Couldn't help myself, had to do some dreaming. The one I 'dreamed up'. 
A WD 45 with a 5.9 Cummins, 12 speed power-shift, 185 final drives, and 20.8x34's. Upon further reflection, might even throw in a diesel ring and pinion. It would be plenty fast with the 5.9 and 20.8's!

I realize this is true fantasy but hey, it would be fun!

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IBWD MIke Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 08 Apr 2012 Location: Newton Ia. Points: 4234	Post Options Post Reply Quote IBWD MIke Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Dream tractor Posted: Yesterday at 7:54am
	Someone on the Red board started a thread like this. Couldn't help myself, had to do some dreaming. The one I 'dreamed up'. A WD 45 with a 5.9 Cummins, 12 speed power-shift, 185 final drives, and 20.8x34's. Upon further reflection, might even throw in a diesel ring and pinion. It would be plenty fast with the 5.9 and 20.8's! I realize this is true fantasy but hey, it would be fun!

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DanielW Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 19 Sep 2022 Location: Ontario Points: 272	Post Options Post Reply Quote DanielW Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Yesterday at 8:31am
	I always thought the best of all worlds for the tractors I'm used to would be an Allis 180/185 engine, front-end, hydraulic system, and layout (with their high-up platform seating position), but have the 8-speed tranny and rear end from a Ford 5000/6600 - including the independent PTO. Though I'd keep the Allis draft control system over the Ford's, and wouldn't mind the PD as well. I love the Allis 6 cyl, seating position, layout, hydraulics and look of the 180. But those Ford trannys and rear-ends were uber-bulletproof and could be abused to heck without issue. I'm quite certain if any of our Allis's were abused like our Fords have been for logging and working in the gravel pit, we would have had jumping gear issues and rear end failures years ago. But our Fords keep taking the abuse without complaint - well over 10k hours. I'd far rather be sitting on an Allis however: They sure got layout and hydraulic system right when they designed the 180. I'd probably also have 30" rears on there, as I always thought the 180's looked a little too squat on the back with the stock 28's. Edited by DanielW - Yesterday at 8:37am

youngorange2000 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 27 Mar 2019 Location: eastcentral MN Points: 323	Post Options Post Reply Quote youngorange2000 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Yesterday at 11:15am
	Mine would be if the 100 series had true clutch pedal independent live pto

HudCo Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 29 Jan 2013 Location: Plymouth Utah Points: 4042	Post Options Post Reply Quote HudCo Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 6 hours 10 minutes ago at 9:59am
	ibwd mike carry that one step farther shorten up the steering relocate the battery and put the super deluxe seat up on a flat floor

tbran Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Paris Tn Points: 3599	Post Options Post Reply Quote tbran Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 3 hours 25 minutes ago at 12:44pm
	Not today but IF in the 1960-70's - Start off with the IV D17 (170) - change the torque housing to accept the 7000 wet type PTO and power director clutch 3 speed - remove 1st gear to allow for syncros and move the PD torque gears down a bit. Use the 3 speed for a 9 speed trans - put disc brakes on as some of the pullers have done and power it with the 4.33T as in the 6060 - the a 2800 at 75 HP for the pullers to be legal - then 4.33I up to 85 PTO - switch to the bar axle to with the 301 at 105 and 118 HP as in the 7000 -
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Leon B MO Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Old Monroe, Mo Points: 2220	Post Options Post Reply Quote Leon B MO Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 2 hours 11 minutes ago at 1:58pm
	The 80xx, especially power shift, needed more gear selection. It needed a 3 speed rear end. It would have been a real update over the 700xx. I still enjoy my ps 8050's as is. Leon B Mo
	Uncle always said "Fill the back of the shovel and the front will take care of itself".

TedBuiskerN.IL. Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Davis, IL. Points: 1961	Post Options Post Reply Quote TedBuiskerN.IL. Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 2 hours 8 minutes ago at 2:01pm
	I wanted to put the 4.33I into a WD45 or a D17. Edited by TedBuiskerN.IL. - 1 hour 54 minutes ago at 2:15pm
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Unit3 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 17 Oct 2009 Location: NC Iowa Points: 5640	Post Options Post Reply Quote Unit3 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 1 hour 38 minutes ago at 2:31pm
	Fun question!!! Allis Chalmers steam engines, AC hit and miss engines or more of the 2 cylinder engines like Fred has. I would have liked to have seen what Gleaner could have done with a 6080 and 8010. I can imagine a hydrostat transmission and electro hydraulics. The side council in the 8010 could’ve looked so far ahead of its time.
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DanWi Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Location: wttn Points: 2033	Post Options Post Reply Quote DanWi Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 1 hour 20 minutes ago at 2:49pm
	Love the late 190's or 200 but could use a few more gears between 5/6 and 7/8 and make road gear faster. Have never driven an 8000 series, thinking they would fit pretty good on the farm. Friend has one of every model, 8010, 8030, 8050 and 8070, but life is busy and I never get over to his farm any more to help him out otherwise I would probably get a chance to drive one. I think the Agco DT series was heading in the right direction, powershift or CVT transmission. Cumins motor and later Sisu. The one my friend has I have driven and other then some nagging electrical issues I think it has been a good tractor.