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    Posted: 24 Mar 2023 at 9:08am
Do farmers ever rent their equipment out for local support of other farmers (or otherwise)?It would be helpful if I could rent my "new" CA for sporadic light duty productive work (once it is operational again).
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Once you've rented it to some knuckle-head that brings it back dented and scratched, you won't rent it any more.
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Could be used with a bushog to cleanup fields?  Are there any LOCAL SMALL FARMS that could use that size tractor ?

Most "small business" are going to have their own tractor... You might get a SIDE JOB of disking or plowing small fields for people as a "one time" need.


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Originally posted by DrAllis DrAllis wrote:

Once you've rented it to some knuckle-head that brings it back dented and scratched, you won't rent it any more.

:( that has been its history :( (well loaned, not sure if it was ever rented)
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Originally posted by steve(ill) steve(ill) wrote:

Could be used with a bushog to cleanup fields?  Are there any LOCAL SMALL FARMS that could use that size tractor ?

Most "small business" are going to have their own tractor... You might get a SIDE JOB of disking or plowing small fields for people as a "one time" need.

That sort of thing was done in the 60s and 70s, but I don't know if it was just a neighborly thing or done for money.  I think probably just neighborly, cause that was the way people seemed to be.  Indiana is mostly small farms.
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You mean you as a driver, or just renting out the tractor?

If just reting out the tractor, well, IDK, I don't mean to offend, but how much call is there for that small of a tractor?  Then the abuse it will see, you'll have to charge plenty to make it pay off?  I don't know, sounds odd to me.


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personally i would never rent my tractors out. people are to hard on equipment dont need them breaking mine.   maybe if it was for a parade. but not actual work
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That old saying " worked like a rented mule" came from somewhere.
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The farm I work for has rented out a large articulating tractor to the township a couple days. and we have rented some pieces of equipment for a job from another farm. I had to drive the tracked dozer a mile when we needed it. Most often payback has been in kind. we agree equipment is returned in as good of condition as when received.
 
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Originally posted by Tbone95 Tbone95 wrote:

You mean you as a driver, or just renting out the tractor?

If just reting out the tractor, well, IDK, I don't mean to offend, but how much call is there for that small of a tractor?  Then the abuse it will see, you'll have to charge plenty to make it pay off?  I don't know, sounds odd to me.



Could be me or maybe my brother or other relative, or someone I know and trust.  Very large number of small farms using small tractors in Indiana, especially the southern part.  Larger farms are mostly in the northern flatter parts.  I have a business and business deduction (loss) IRS rules are indeed strange...
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Ok, you or someone you know and trust, I guess I could see that.  Just have to get the word out there.  I mean, there's small, then there's 65 years old 25 HP small.  But you know your area better than I do.  
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The best way to lose a friend is to loan (or rent, in this case) them something. You may trust them, but when it comes back broken or damaged, you will feel differently.
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Originally posted by WF owner WF owner wrote:

The best way to lose a friend is to loan (or rent, in this case) them something. You may trust them, but when it comes back broken or damaged, you will feel differently.

Been there, many times.  I'm a pretty forgiving guy.  I expect a little damage.  It came back once with a broken front wheel pedastal.  Hopefully, nothing like that happens, but you never know.
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I loaned my then 65hr Kubota BX23s to neighbour for a long weekend as he needed to move 4-5 tandem loads of sand at his cottage.He's allowed me to 'dumpster dive' for years at his steel fab shop..... I also remove the'white' ,you know WHO, leaves in his driveway.....reminds me I need to visys the bin again !
It came back FULL of fuel and cleaner than I'd given it to him ! It's the only time anyone other than me has been 'in the seat'. Locally I operate the machine getting 'thank you's and home baked goods, fresh farm eggs, etc.'
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Jay,
I have a nephew that lives next door and a neighbor that do the same. Anytime they use my stuff it comes back perfect, but you have to admit, they are exceptions to the rule.

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My brothers, nephew and my son are the only ones I allow to run my tractors lol. Yeah, I really protect them from harm.
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i use to borrow my father in laws D17 when we were building a house.. 40 years ago.. Seems like every time i needed it , it was out of fuel , needed the oil changed, and had a flat tire ......... I did more maint on that tractor in 3 years than he did in 20.
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You might consider getting a small plow or disk for the tractor and till up gardens in the neighborhood, it would be small enough to get into tight places and light enough not to tear up the yard to bad. Renting out any tractor without the proper insurance in this day and age is a recipe for trouble and definitely dont get involved in pulling hayrides in any way shape or form. Not worth the liability exposure. Just my 2 cents
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I worked for a neighbor years ago, who rented a tractor every spring for 200 engine hours. From the local implement dealer. There was one fall we ‘bartered’ with a neighbor to use 3 of his gravity boxes after he finished corn harvest, can’t remember what we gave in return, heck that was over 40 years ago.
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Last year we rented a Cat D6 payed off with 30 dump truck 20 Yard loads of old manure pile we provided the Pay loader to load. They loaded the trucks we just left the loader at the pile. When they were done we took another 30 loads to the field.
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