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D17 power director safety.
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    Posted: 20 Nov 2022 at 8:28pm
I read in Jim's good article on the history of the D17 in Old Allis news about the lady that got killed when her coat caught the power director when she got off on that side of the tractor and it prompted AC to build something to put on the power director so it would not happen again. Several questions since I would like to put one on my series 1 D17 that does not have it.
1. What is the part or part number?

2. Is it still available?

3. Is it hard to pup on?

4. Where can I get one?

Thanks
Mike Townsley
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I assume that's when the push button in the lever came into being.....got to push it down to move the lever.
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It is cast into the power director handle, if you zoom in on the first picture, you can see it.

Or in the seventh photo in this listing.
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As far as I remember, the 'push button' has been there since day one, 1957, D-14 and D-17. But it didn't have any guard around the button.

When the D-15 came out in 1960, replacing the D-14, the thumb guard around the button was one of the changes.

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allischalmerguy

The later model D17, D15, D19 tractors were fitted with the upgraded power director/hand clutch lever.  Swapping out your D17 Series I lever would seem to be the way to go.  Some of the AC suppliers that sponsor this Forum would probably be able to source the part. Or you can probably source thru regular used like eBay etc

The upgraded levers had a built up two sided rectangular protective barrier on the front and right side of the button area, a bit higher than the top of the button on the lever.  Intended to prevent the unfortunate incident from reoccurring
1963 D17D Series III. 1965 D15 Series II. 1965 D17 Series IV. 1975 185. 1978 716H. 1979 716H. 1965 780 Harvester/1R&DC. 1957 Model 73 SC 4 Furrow Plow
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Originally posted by SteveM C/IL SteveM C/IL wrote:

I assume that's when the push button in the lever came into being.....got to push it down to move the lever.


I don't think so. The push button would not be good if your coat caught it?
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Originally posted by Leadoff Leadoff wrote:

allischalmerguy

The later model D17, D15, D19 tractors were fitted with the upgraded power director/hand clutch lever.  Swapping out your D17 Series I lever would seem to be the way to go.  Some of the AC suppliers that sponsor this Forum would probably be able to source the part. Or you can probably source thru regular used like eBay etc

The upgraded levers had a built up two sided rectangular protective barrier on the front and right side of the button area, a bit higher than the top of the button on the lever.  Intended to prevent the unfortunate incident from reoccurring





Thanks so much Leadoff.
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allischalmerguy

A pic of a D19 Power Director/Hand Clutch Lever for sale on eBay.  Several views.  Not sure if D15/D19 are same size as D17.
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Guys thanks for bringing back a memory. I knew there was a difference between my series 4 and dads early 17. I've been racking my brain trying to remember what was different about those 2 levers.    It was one of dang things that bugged me.
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Originally posted by Leadoff Leadoff wrote:

allischalmerguy

A pic of a D19 Power Director/Hand Clutch Lever for sale on eBay.  Several views.  Not sure if D15/D19 are same size as D17.



Thanks Leadoff,   

I bought it. Dr. Allis said it should fit my D17 ok if it is from a D19.
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Far easier and safer to shift the tractor into N, set the parking brake, before getting off the tractor...Wink
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Interesting how from the very late 1950's until now how a safety issue was dealt with. The operator was clearly at fault by not having the transmission shifted into neutral. Allis was somewhat at fault by not having a thumb guard on the lever to begin with.  There was no massive recall to replace every hand lever without,  to one with a thumb guard. Life just went on.
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To me it just seems easier and safer to just get on from the left side, the way it was designed.
Do you climb into your vehicle on the passenger side and try to climb around the shifter.
Common sense goes a long ways.
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Originally posted by truckerfarmer truckerfarmer wrote:

To me it just seems easier and safer to just get on from the left side, the way it was designed.
Do you climb into your vehicle on the passenger side and try to climb around the shifter.
Common sense goes a long ways.


If have a loader with the loader controls on left side damn near impossible to get through.
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Truckerfarmer:  I agree.  I have never even thought of getting off the tractor on that side after owning my D-17 Series IV for over 12 years now.  It always seemed backwards to even think about getting on or off on that side.
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Just like a horse, get on from the left side.
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Some really famous cowboys mounted from the rear. I'm jus sayin.....
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Originally posted by DrAllis DrAllis wrote:

Some really famous cowboys mounted from the rear. I'm jus sayin.....

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