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    Posted: 10 Oct 2022 at 7:59pm
Corn field along ditch bank.. We have something growing out from the ditch into the corn field. I have cut with sickle year after year.. Thinking about spray with   ROUNDUP.. We call it "REED" but it does not look like the picture on the internet.. No leaves, no flowers.. Looks like mini sugar cane stems, or bamboo... They are about the size of a pencil and grow about 3 ft tall and dark green color.. Gets REAL THICK... but no leaves or flowers as far as i can tell.

What is it ?
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We call them reeds also, they will grow to 15 or 20 feet if not cut,  they spread from the roots.  We used to cut when green and lay up in top of garage to dry and then used them for fishing poles.  Dulls rotary mower blades fast.  
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I read that some "reeds" do not react to ROUNDUP... they are using 24D a couple years straight to kill the roots.. ?
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I believe it's called Rush neighbor has a patch he is trying to kill. Just have a small patch in a bean field this year.
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DAN.... you might get the BINGO..



Author: Larry Steckel, Extension Weed Specialist Comments Offon Controlling Scouring Rush In and Around Crop Areas
Scouring Rush

                                           

Over the past several years many have had concerns about scouring rush creeping into crop production areas.  Scouring rush is not a typical agronomic weed. It normally grows along fence rows, ditch banks, and low lying areas.  However, in long term no-tillage production systems scouring rush is increasingly encroaching into crop production areas. 

Since scouring rush is starting to make an appearance at the agronomic scene, a study was conducted to test a variety of control options around the edge of a corn production scenario.  Test results 7 days after application indicate that Liberty 280 (36 oz/A) tank mixed with Roundup Powermax (22 oz/A) provided 61% control in a single application, compared to 10% control with Roundup Powermax (22 oz/A) alone.  Crossbow (1 gal/A) tank mixed with Roundup Powermax (22 oz/A) provided the highest amount of control with 79% and Forefront R&P (42 oz/A) tank mixed with Roundup Powermax (22 oz/A) rounded out the top three with 68% control with a single application.  More weekly ratings are to be conducted to determine the long term effect on scouring rush population and sequential applications may increase control.  Note that these herbicides, with the exception of Liberty 280, are not labeled for agronomic crop use and could cause potential harm to growing agronomic crops, but could be an option in pastures.



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Steve I saw the title of the post and thought maybe you had cash crop going
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That looks like it might require a brush and vine killer to eradicate.
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agronomic ???
is that the new way to spell 'farming' ?
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If you had a sickle mower, cut them down when mature, bundle them into 4"  rounds, sell to citybots for $5 each or 3 for $20........
Have a youngin setup a roadside stand.. they's ALL be gone and kid will have lots of 20 $ bills !
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Originally posted by jaybmiller jaybmiller wrote:

agronomic ???
is that the new way to spell 'farming' ?
yeesh...


If you had a sickle mower, cut them down when mature, bundle them into 4"  rounds, sell to citybots for $5 each or 3 for $20........
Have a youngin setup a roadside stand.. they's ALL be gone and kid will have lots of 20 $ bills !
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Would be nice to find something that will kill it 100% dead. Probably going to take multiple applications, wonder what the best timing will be? Usually when small and actively growing.
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Last year i cut it in the spring just before corn planting... Grew right back during the summer... This year i cut it first of October and sprayed Brush Killer on the small trees behind the REED and got some spray on the REED...... Now im ready to spray again just a couple weeks PRIOR to planting next spring...

The stuff has moved out into the field 6 ft along one section of the old creek / ditch that has not been maintained well.... I just took on the job of cutting back the brush / trees / reed to try to get back  2-3 more rows or corn... and some sunlight.
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Stopped by the neighbor today and told him about this post. He pulled out a jug of crossbow he had. Guess the stuff at his place will be getting a treatment. He's been trying stuff on it all summer, will see if this gets it. Not many people know about this weed and less people know how to kill it.
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CrossBow is a good concentration of 3-5-6T mixed with some 24D.... Weaker stuff is TORDON or GORDONS BRUSH KILLER.......... I use the GORDONS because it is generic and cheaper...... Keep me informed on how the CrossBow works.

This was Father-in-law 35 acre plot that looks like a "W" around 3 ditches.. Farmed by RENTER .....  Im hoping he will run the disc out a little further and chop up the stuff since i cut it to 4 inches tall ... and trimmed all the tree limbs behind to not drag on the tractor. Wink


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I have some of that growing in my fields too. It does better here in wetter years, only grows in the lower lying areas in my sandy soil. It seems to recede in drier years. I have found nothing that kills it when among corn or soybeans.
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we had a small patch of it down next to a low spot by the creek for more than 50 years, never grew into a larger patch, really didn't bother our crops much, but it wasn't as thick as that picture either! we always plowed it under every year, really built up the soil and we raised really good crops there. 
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Section grass!!! lol! We used to play with it when I was a kid! pop the sections apart,-- then stick them back together!  Grandmother had some growing in her road ditch by her house.
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This is odd to me. I remember them growing in the bottomland where I grew up, but those spots flooded often enough that most sensible people didn't try to rowcrop that land. I've never had ground sandy enough where they could probably even survive, but I guess I can see it competing well in sandy ground. I'm surprised they're such an issue since they're native plants and have been here for probably longer than humans.
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It is odd how weed pressures change over decades,but we have changed cropping practices going to minimum and no-till. Also rotating corn and beans with not much small grain and some hay. A few years back we had 2 years with record rains and ground that had water on it and had prevented planting changed the soil environment weeds popped up that we don't have as much experience with. Just like in fence lines and grasslands we are seeing more mulberry trees don't remember have them much 20 years ago. They have long strong roots and really bush out in a few years if you don't kill them. The Rush on our farm is a small patch going up a hill in a bean field, clay soil not sand. Hopefully we can control it.
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Well, well, well, seems as though you guys are missing an opportunity;
You can't get rid this stuff if people are planting it on purpose!  I expect to see ornamental thistles next.


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Well if they want ornamental thistle, I got plenty they can come dig up for transplant
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