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Northern Hoser 
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 Topic: Rotella T4 replacement?
Posted: 22 Mar 2022 at 3:04pm |
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Hello all,
The Dr's recent cam issue got me thinking about oils; usually a hot topic I know.. I went to resupply my own Rotella T4 stock here in Ontario, Canada and NOBODY has any!
It's my preferred oil for my 426 and 301s and nearly everything else. What's a good replacement?
Thinking specifically about the zinc and other additives. I know that's a whole can of worms to open but seeing as I can't seem to buy any T4, I gotta find something else.
Is anyone running Schaeffer's?
Matt
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steve(ill)
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Posted: 22 Mar 2022 at 4:08pm |
Matt, are you allowed to buy oil on line in Canada ? Do you have anything against that ? Some places have free shipping if you buy over $25 or $50. worth..
Edited by steve(ill) - 22 Mar 2022 at 4:09pm
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Leon B MO
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Posted: 22 Mar 2022 at 4:21pm |
Orielly's said they could get us a 55gl drum by the middle of May (we'll see) at $17.00 per gallon. Still expensive but less than buying in jugs. We have 20gls left in our barrel so we should not run out. I was told Shell had a fire in one of their plants last fall but expect to catch up on production by summer...if you can last that long. We run Rottella in everything. Good luck Leon B MO
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SteveMaskey(MO)
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Posted: 22 Mar 2022 at 5:12pm |
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Rual King in my area is starting to get some in. I purchased 12.5 gallon in 2.5 gallon jugs for $35.99 a jug $3.60 a quart
Edited by SteveMaskey(MO) - 23 Mar 2022 at 8:45am
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Northern Hoser
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Posted: 22 Mar 2022 at 8:55pm |
You mean like order oil online using the internet and such? We don't do that sort of thing here in Canada, at least not during maple syrup season. 
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steve(ill)
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Posted: 22 Mar 2022 at 9:11pm |
OUCH !!!.... they really know how to SCREW you guys !! 
For that price i would drive to the US and pickup a couple cases !!
Edited by steve(ill) - 22 Mar 2022 at 9:13pm
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jaybmiller
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Posted: 22 Mar 2022 at 9:21pm |
Generally speaking NOBODY will ship 'hazardous materials', like oil,spray paint, grease tubes,canned paint, ether orWD40 type stuff,.... welcome to Canada,eh !!!
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Posted: 23 Mar 2022 at 6:44am |
Where are you in Ontario? I am in northern NY State, about 12 miles from Cornwall. You could have oil shipped here, if you aren't far away. I know Ontario is a big province!
Crossing the border is supposed to get easier April 1.
Edited by WF owner - 23 Mar 2022 at 6:45am
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Posted: 23 Mar 2022 at 7:23am |
NONE of the carriers.. FEDEX, Purolator, UPS will ship 'hazmat' products, at least not from a retail store to a customer.....
when cv19 lockdown restrictions were kinda lifted last year I went and bought 5G pails of oils and 12 spray bombs. we're pretty open, so I'll have to restock the shop PDQ before the next variation comes
we have weird laws up here.....
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Northern Hoser
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Posted: 23 Mar 2022 at 8:25am |
 This stuff says it's engineered with Shell whatever that is. Seems like a bargain at $82 per pail. Wonder if it's just Rotella in there?
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Posted: 23 Mar 2022 at 8:30am |
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probably.. I know the Kubota has had it for 3 years/700 hrs......and happy.
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Posted: 23 Mar 2022 at 8:33am |
I dont see anything about ZINC levels.
MotoMaster 15W40 Conventional Diesel Oil developed with Shell Technology is formulated with a clean engine detergent system, soot control protection, wear reduction technology, and viscosity stability that protects against viscosity breakdown and corrosive wear protection.FEATURES- MotoMaster 15W40 Conventional Diesel Engine Oil provides excellent performance for diesel engines operating at normal duty levels and manufacturers recommended oil change intervals in a wide variety of diesel engine applications.
- Meets or exceeds the latest requirements of API CK-4, CJ-4, CI-4 Plus, CI-4, CH-4
- Meets requirements for Caterpillar ECF-2, ECF-3, ACEA A9, JASO DH-2, Cummins CES 20086, 20081, Detroit Fluids Specification (DFS) 93K222, 93K218, Deutz DQC III-10 LA.
- Meets or exceeds the latest requirements of Mack EOS-4.5, EO-0 Premium Plus, MB-Approval 228.31, MTU Category 2.1, Volvo VDS-4.5, VDS-4, Ford WSS-M2C171, Allison TES-439.
- Available sizes: 946 mL, 18.9 L
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Ed (Ont)
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Posted: 23 Mar 2022 at 8:33am |
Have you tried a truck dealership like International or Freightliner. They are usually a bit more reasonable. Hey hoser. Where in Canada are you? I notice your ad is from Barrie store.
Edited by Ed (Ont) - 23 Mar 2022 at 8:55am
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Posted: 23 Mar 2022 at 8:36am |
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It's starting to show up in stores now. Should trickle across the border in a month or two I would think.
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Posted: 23 Mar 2022 at 8:44am |
I run Schaeffers racing oil in my puller and used it on the farm. They have excellent rep around here.
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Ed (Ont)
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Posted: 23 Mar 2022 at 8:50am |
So further to my post. Where I work (int'l dealership) a pail of Chevron delo is $89.95 or 3.79 litre jugs are $24.95 each or $75 for box of 3. This was the special for this month. Parts guy said Shell was a bit more but supply now is limited. So these online places are totally ridiculous. Go to dealership or heavy truck supply place. They are not cheap either but at least try to be fair.
Oh and that is Cdn dollars. 
Edited by Ed (Ont) - 23 Mar 2022 at 8:51am
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Northern Hoser
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Posted: 23 Mar 2022 at 8:58am |
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Thanks guys, I'll give the truck centers a ring.
I've rounded up enough to get two tractors changed so should be good for spring.
I looked for the same thing Steve, nothing mentioned about zinc in that Motomaster oil.
Matt
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Posted: 23 Mar 2022 at 9:08am |
MSDS sheet has a little info:  Safety sheet lists zinc as 0.5-1.5... which is 500-1500ppm I believe Quite a wide spectrum there It does say it's produced by Shell
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