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Red Bank 
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Posted: 20 Feb 2022 at 10:08pm |
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Went and found a 175 sitting in a field for sale (owner passed away) so no info available. Question I have is it going to be ok to pull it with another tractor about 1/2 mile to where we can load it? It has a three bottom plow buried behind it so I don’t know if it ran out of fuel or what happened to it but it’s been there for a couple of years.
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Charlie175
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Posted: 21 Feb 2022 at 6:00am |
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Unhook the plow, put the tractor in neutral with the hand clutch in neutral. Should be no issues. Steering may be an issue.
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jaybmiller
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Posted: 21 Feb 2022 at 6:12am |
Charlies' right, uncouple into 2 pieces. I'd pullback plow, haul to loading site. Then confirm tractor's in neutrals, say the length of the plow., then pull it backward probably need an air pig to FILL the tires up,say 5-10# more than normal.That'll help with the tow Good news is , it's a dang sight warmer where you are ! Should be a fun couple of hours !!
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Gary Burnett
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Posted: 21 Feb 2022 at 6:43am |
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Know anyone with a tow dolly?
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jaybmiller
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Posted: 21 Feb 2022 at 7:01am |
it'd be 'challenging' to get a 'nonrunning' tractor front wheels onto a tow dolly unless you can get the pickup/dolly to the tractor. I'm thinking the only access is with another tractor ?
towing isn't the problem ...steering might be...
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Posted: 21 Feb 2022 at 9:24am |
 Charlie175 wrote:
Unhook the plow, put the tractor in neutral with the hand clutch in neutral. Should be no issues. Steering may be an issue. |
Actually, according to the manual the hand clutch should either be in high or low when towing. But yes, the tractor can be towed with no problems.
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Red Bank
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Posted: 22 Feb 2022 at 8:56pm |
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Friend of mine pulled it to his house and tried to turn it over. Appears the engine is locked up. He said the hydraulic fluid was empty and put 5 gallons in it. Any chance the hydraulic pump locked up?
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Charlie175
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Posted: 23 Feb 2022 at 7:02am |
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Is it a Diesel or gas?
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jaybmiller
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Posted: 23 Feb 2022 at 8:45am |
re: according to the manual the hand clutch should either be in high or low when towing.
hmm, wonder why they'd say that ?
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Posted: 23 Feb 2022 at 8:58am |
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In a perfect world, the transmission should be in road gear, hand clutch in high side and the foot clutch locked down. But, like I say, that would be in a perfect world.
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Posted: 23 Feb 2022 at 10:58am |
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I towed my 190 a 1/2 mile to get it to a shop Nd thaw it out the fuel was frozen water in it. Put transmition in neutral I left power director in high on a 190 it doesn't matter since its hydraulic. You have no steering but if you hook a bridle to both sides and the center on the pickup hitch itll follow you. Keep the chains fairly short. If you use a long chain itll go a long ways before it starts to turn and follow.Put some one on the tractor to operate the brakes if you can. I have pulled it with nobody on the tractor but it may run into the back of your truck . That's no problem for me the elder bed on my truck it 3/6" diamond plate and hasent bent yet.
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Posted: 23 Feb 2022 at 11:39am |
re: the transmission should be in road gear, hand clutch in high side and the foot clutch locked down.
ok, now I'm real curious as to why you'd put the tranny in gear. seems 'wrong' to me
my luck the foot clutch would unlock and tractor would stop PDQ !
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Posted: 23 Feb 2022 at 12:03pm |
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Doing it that way sees to it everything gets lubricated just like the engine was powering it. Road gear to turn things the slowest when towing.
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Posted: 23 Feb 2022 at 12:31pm |
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if left in neutral, the shaft will be spinning inside the gears, and if towed too fast, the shaft can seize inside a gear. Doing as Dr pointed out makes the gears turn thus flinging up the oil they use for lube. So the only thing spinning is the clutch disc inside the flywheel/pressure plate, as well as throw-out and pilot bearings.
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Posted: 23 Feb 2022 at 2:03pm |
I repaired a 180 years ago after the owner towed it when it stalled on a highway. When towing it he must of had the transmission in one of the lower gears and/or towed it way too fast as the power director clutch exploded and parts of it came out the side of the clutch housing. There was an operator in the seat when the clutch exploded, but he was not injured, but I felt he was pretty lucky.
One thing not mentioned is to make sure the transmission lube level is up to the full mark before towing the tractor.
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Posted: 23 Feb 2022 at 6:02pm |
A 180 is a hydraulic actuated PD, isn't the 175 a dry clutch PD system  ??
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Posted: 23 Feb 2022 at 6:14pm |
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ALL A-C hand clutches/Power Director clutches run in oil. That is why they last so long. The exception is the model "CA" tractor, which is a half-axxed attempt to live power thru the axle pinion shaft.
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Posted: 24 Feb 2022 at 8:03pm |
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Update: got a call today my friend got it running. For some reason he thinks the hydraulic pump was causing the engine to not turn over. He said he moved the steering wheel and lift arms while trying to start it and it broke loose and started up. He is suppose to bring it to me tomorrow so we will see.
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Posted: 24 Feb 2022 at 8:21pm |
Red Bank wrote:
Update: got a call today my friend got it running. For some reason he thinks the hydraulic pump was causing the engine to not turn over. He said he moved the steering wheel and lift arms while trying to start it and it broke loose and started up. He is suppose to bring it to me tomorrow so we will see. |
Keep us updated on the developments with your AC 175 tractor. Is it a diesel ? What model 3 bottom plow was with the tractor ? Good luck.
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Posted: 25 Feb 2022 at 8:26pm |
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It is a diesel, my friend brought it to me today. We jumped it off and drove it off the trailer. No brakes, needs at least one fender, hood is rough, grille missing, side panels missing, needs a battery and could stand new tires, also missing right side lift cylinder. But it runs great, will try to get some pictures this weekend.
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Posted: 25 Feb 2022 at 8:27pm |
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I think the plow was a Ford three bottom, the deal I had with my friend is he got to keep the plow.
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Posted: 25 Feb 2022 at 10:14pm |
Red Bank wrote:
Went and found a 175 sitting in a field for sale...It has a three bottom plow buried behind it so I don’t know if it ran out of fuel or what happened to it but it’s been there for a couple of years. |
It's like you found the Tin Man in the middle of chopping wood when it rained.
Froze right up there in the middle of the field. Give it some oil ... and a heart!
Edited by jvin248 - 25 Feb 2022 at 10:16pm
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Posted: 26 Feb 2022 at 9:26am |
Red Bank wrote:
I think the plow was a Ford three bottom, the deal I had with my friend is he got to keep the plow. |
I had couple of Ford 3 bottom plows. First one was a Ford 101 3-16” trip plow. Then brought at auction a Ford 150 3-16” auto spring reset plow in 1999 and sold the 101 plow. I wonder how hard it would be to find all the sheet metal parts you will need or would a donor tractor be a better option ? Still sounds like a good find.
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Posted: 26 Feb 2022 at 6:14pm |
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Hey Doc ,or others ITK, why did our D-17 '19,'15 sit on the barn hill with PD in high or low and not roll down it, yet the 180,XT needs the brakes locked on the same slope or they do roll down ? Thanks
Edited by FREEDGUY - 26 Feb 2022 at 6:15pm
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Posted: 26 Feb 2022 at 8:29pm |
FREEDGUY wrote:
Hey Doc ,or others ITK, why did our D-17 '19,'15 sit on the barn hill with PD in high or low and not roll down it, yet the 180,XT needs the brakes locked on the same slope or they do roll down ? Thanks
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Smaller tractors had a mechanical power director so they were locked in gear. 180 and larger have hydraulic actuated power directors - they need the engine running to provide oil pressure so it goes into gear. Without oil pressure, they are in neutral and can roll.
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Posted: 27 Feb 2022 at 5:25pm |
Thanks D for the clarification  !!
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