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DoubleFarms 
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Posted: 19 Dec 2021 at 5:40pm |
Need new steering tie rods for my 190. Any good after market places that handle good ones that stay tight, like your input of the ones you like and the ones to stay away from  Thank You
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SteveMaskey(MO)
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Posted: 19 Dec 2021 at 7:09pm |
If you put anti-seize on the China ones
the only way I can get them to hold is double clamp them. Grind the spot weld
off the old clamp and put it on the new tie rod
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Dakota Dave
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Posted: 19 Dec 2021 at 8:58pm |
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You shouldn't use anti seize on a non threaded tie rod. That's like putting grease on your brake pads.
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AC720Man
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Posted: 20 Dec 2021 at 6:58am |
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Dave is correct, I made that stupid mistake once...had to get new ones because I couldn’t get the originals to slide. Torch wouldn’t free them so I thought I will prevent that from happening again and anti seize them. Ha, Had to take em apart again and wipe it off because the clamps couldn’t hold them. Never again...it’s a good product though
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calico190xt68
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Posted: 20 Dec 2021 at 4:49pm |
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I purchased mine from All States Ag. I honestly think they all sell the same product, maybe even Agco as they fit other non Allis equipment. Mine came unpainted so I painted them before I installed to keep the rust down. Make sure you purchase both sections. While I only needed one side, it was impossible to get the other side pulled out after 50 years of being there. Recommendation from others was to replace both sides at the same time. Not sure if you have removed yours yet, but they can be difficult to remove on the tire side. Mine came loose at the knuckle while baling hay in a rough field that was miles from my house. It was quite the shock when the tire shoots out at a 90 degree angle and starts plowing. Glad I wasn't in road gear going over a railroad track. I ended up wrapping baling wire around it to keep it together and drove home in 1st gear. Took me a week to get parts and reinstall. Good luck.
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SteveM C/IL
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Posted: 20 Dec 2021 at 6:28pm |
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Though you were starting to say it took a week to get home.lol
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Posted: 20 Dec 2021 at 7:54pm |
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It was crazy, but it was cheaper to buy the entire assembly instead of both ends and the rod. I replaced both side on my 190XT.
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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD
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calico190xt68
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Posted: 20 Dec 2021 at 7:58pm |
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Oh, it took a long time to get home in first gear. Probably over an hour.
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SteveMaskey(MO)
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Posted: 20 Dec 2021 at 9:10pm |
Like I said in the earlier post I use
anti-seize and double clamp them. Two clamps will hold them and if you want to
move them just loosen the clamps and they will easily move. This has worked for
me the last 50 years 
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Posted: 20 Dec 2021 at 10:14pm |
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are the true agco ones any better
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SteveMaskey(MO)
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Posted: 21 Dec 2021 at 5:43am |
Mike, the AGCO clamps are heaver and
better than the China ones. Look at the pic I posted the left is China the
right is AGCO. I haven’t bought any for
quite some time so I don’t know how they are now
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Alex09(WI)
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Posted: 21 Dec 2021 at 9:34am |
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From my experience, the AGCO ones are more precise fit (less gap between the male/female parts). We sell the same one as all state ag parts, those aftermarket ones are hard to get tightened without slipping. As was mentioned, using the original clamp on the aftermarket tie rod helps.
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Posted: 21 Dec 2021 at 7:46pm |
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I did have to retighten my clamp after using it a little while but it has been fine since. That was 2 years ago. I did not put anti sieze on it though. Never thought of that. I think you should have it dialed in after the first hour or so and it should move. Can't imagine moving it again. I do think agco stuff can be worth the extra cost.
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