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LouSWPA 
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Posted: 12 Nov 2010 at 5:16pm |
I spent the day getting two wheels and tires retrieved from my "storage depot" ( almost as bad as the dud from Arizona!, not naming names, but his initials are RA! LOL) and changing two rotting wheels on WD. Things came to a screeching halt when it came time to remove wheel from WD. all bolts out, wheel won't budge. BFH around rim, no help. tied chain to wheel over screw jack pushing against axle end. When I couldn't get the screw jack to go any further with regular handle, I applied a wench to jack, broke jack.
I taking my bride out for a burger and beer before I break something else. In the meantime anybody have any ideas? Dave, you wanna come down and muscle this thing off? LOL
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Gary in da UP
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Posted: 12 Nov 2010 at 5:24pm |
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You need to get out the heat wrench.
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GlenninPA
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Posted: 12 Nov 2010 at 5:39pm |
my friend, if you don't have a fire wrench you may as well surrender now and call the junk man!
LOL, wish I was closer to your side of the state, I'd be over after you got home!
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Doug northern IL
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Posted: 12 Nov 2010 at 6:09pm |
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We call that the blue wrench
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Eldon (WA)
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Posted: 12 Nov 2010 at 6:18pm |
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I've had to put a hydraulic jack between the tractor and wheel before to force it off, but usually the 12 pound sledge against the tire will bounce it loose after working up a good sweat. I leave two wheel bolts in, turned out about a quarter inch. Just did 4 of them last week...practice makes perfect. I'm getting pretty good at freeing up the eccentrics also just by using two heavy hammers. I have one with the wedge shape on one end, it sits against the back side of the pin and up against the wheel center (wheel still on tractor) so I can give it a good couple of hits, then hit it from the front side, repeat a couple of times with some sprays of PB Blaster and they will break free unless they are rusted beyond hope.
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Gary in da UP
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Posted: 12 Nov 2010 at 7:16pm |
 Doug northern IL wrote:
We call that the blue wrench |
or the gas axe.
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Osage_Orange
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Posted: 12 Nov 2010 at 7:58pm |
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If the tractor is driveable, loosen all the lug bolts about 1/4", drive it, make some sharp turns, rough ground, etc. If rims are rotted and tires are shot, who cares? You just wanna get the wheel broken loose from hub. Be careful! FWIW
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Glockhead SWMI
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Posted: 12 Nov 2010 at 8:16pm |
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I beat the snot out of one last week. Fun times!
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Clay in MI
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Posted: 12 Nov 2010 at 8:55pm |
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I've used all the methods mentioned but now use a bottle jack between the rim and the tractor. This way it's less likely that I damage the tractor or that it damages me.
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wkpoor
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Posted: 12 Nov 2010 at 10:45pm |
Osage_Orange wrote:
If the tractor is driveable, loosen all the lug bolts about 1/4", drive it, make some sharp turns, rough ground, etc. If rims are rotted and tires are shot, who cares? You just wanna get the wheel broken loose from hub. Be careful! FWIW |
This technique works real well and doesn't hurt a thing. Its actually the least damaging way to remove a stuck wheel.
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BobHnwO
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Posted: 13 Nov 2010 at 4:30am |
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Instead of a jack,use a hydraulic cyl.
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JohnThomas
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Posted: 13 Nov 2010 at 6:33am |
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Use 50/50 mix...ATF & Acetone..soak good..get up in the morning and it'll fall off with above method...(hyd jack)
Edited by JohnThomas - 13 Nov 2010 at 6:33am
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RichinWis
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Posted: 13 Nov 2010 at 8:36am |
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I couldn't believe it yesterday I went to take one off a 1956 WD45 at the salvage yard and I was removing the lug bolts then he was going to come lift it up with the forklift so I could get the wheel. As I was removing the last three it started wiggling and the wheel would have fell right off if I wouldn't have stopped. Probably the first time that has happened for me. Must have lived a sheltered life.
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Posted: 13 Nov 2010 at 12:29pm |
If you can get some transformer oil from your power co. soak it a couple of hrs.
That is the best pentertrating oil I have found.
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GBACBFan
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Posted: 13 Nov 2010 at 12:45pm |
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Lou, I was reading the back of a can of loose juice at WallyWorld last night, and if you put two drops on each wheel and block up the tractor before you go to bed, in the morning the wheels will be laying on the ground. That sure must be some wonderful stuff!
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LouSWPA
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Posted: 13 Nov 2010 at 1:39pm |
GlenninPA wrote:
my friend, if you don't have a fire wrench you may as well surrender now and call the junk man!
LOL, wish I was closer to your side of the state, I'd be over after you got home! |
HEHEHE seems I've heard tha somewhere before!
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I am still confident of this;
I will see the goodness of the Lord in the land of the living.
Wait for the Lord;
be strong and take heart and wait for the Lord. Ps 27
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LouSWPA
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Posted: 13 Nov 2010 at 1:46pm |
  OK, I win! Thanks for all the suggestions and moral support. I tried a bottle jack with the chain around the wheel and pushing against the axle end first because getting the fire wrench to the tractor was going to take more effort. bottle jack worked! While I was at it, I discovered all the bolts holding one bull gear housing on was loose and several missing! Yikes! Guess I was fortunate to have the tire go flat!
Edited by LouSWPA - 13 Nov 2010 at 1:50pm
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I am still confident of this;
I will see the goodness of the Lord in the land of the living.
Wait for the Lord;
be strong and take heart and wait for the Lord. Ps 27
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