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    Posted: 15 Dec 2020 at 8:52pm
Neighbor bought a nice green stripe R40. Haven’t seen it up close yet but appears to be in good shape. What engine did they have? 433T or Deutz air cooled? Never seen one before.
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Thanks Doc, looks like he has a 4 row corn head on it. Anxious to talk to him to see how its performing for him. They ran a M2 for years.
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If it is set-up/configured properly for his crops, he should be very happy with it. I only had two of them and their only inherent weakness was breaking rear steering spindles, as they were lighter than the R-50.
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Originally posted by AC720Man AC720Man wrote:

Thanks Doc, looks like he has a 4 row corn head on it. Anxious to talk to him to see how its performing for him. They ran a M2 for years.

Going from a 301 to a Duetz he’s going to take a big hit in reliability.  
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Originally posted by victoryallis victoryallis wrote:

Originally posted by AC720Man AC720Man wrote:

Thanks Doc, looks like he has a 4 row corn head on it. Anxious to talk to him to see how its performing for him. They ran a M2 for years.

Going from a 301 to a Duetz he’s going to take a big hit in reliability.  
Not necessarily. But parts iand qualified service may be a concern. If the wrong mechanic works on the Deutz it will be a problem child for sure. Deutz advertised ease of swapping out a piston and cylinder jug but it's anything but easy for a mechanic unfamiliar and ill equipped. Special tools and precise measurements are required. You don't just slap a Deutz together. 

All this info I got from working on a 5 cylinder back in school and much more recently from the dealer in Mountain Lake MN when I was in the market for a combine. In fact I had bought an air cooled R62 (crashed on the way to my place) from Mountain Lake (Midway Farm Equipment) with these instructions and that I would be well advised to get Deutz engine service from the Twin Cities area which is much closer to me anyhow. Most AGCO dealers are NOT familiar enough with these engines to do the job right if there was a problem as per his words. That is the problem with owning a Deutz to me, you have to have access to good service which I can get but many can't. As far as maintenance goes they are bad but you just have to realize that the Deutz has different requirements. They must be clean. 

edit.... As far as maintenance goes they are NOT bad but you just have to realize that the Deutz has different requirements. They must be clean. 


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I have owned and used a r40 for five years over 170 acres per year never had problem with engine just make sure it blow out everyday thought that is similar to water cooled engines 

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Originally posted by wheatbreeder wheatbreeder wrote:

Ithought that is similar to water cooled engines 



How well did your block heater work ?
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The Deutz used an either starting aid that worked automatically in cold weather with a temp sensor  
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Originally posted by victoryallis victoryallis wrote:

Originally posted by wheatbreeder wheatbreeder wrote:

Ithought that is similar to water cooled engines 



How well did your block heater work ?
Quite well, actually.


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I wonder during harvest how many are close to eletric to plug in? When were harvesting we are seldom near a plug
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Just curious 4 row wide or narrow 30 inch corn head? Wondering about clearance.
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I'm thinking 4 row wide to clear the tires i have 6 30 which  clears the tires and does  not tramp corn rows 
 
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I need to correct my post, they ran a F2 with the 433T engine in it. They still run it also. He said they have been very pleased with the R40 so far.
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My uncle had an R40 until he retired a couple years ago. He and his son liked it better than his son's 1640. In green beans he could get more done in a day than the 1640. They ran them a lot in the same fields for years. It would do better in green beans than the 1666 too. They got the 1666 when they traded the 1640. I have no idea what rotor set up the R40 had but both Cases ran the standard rotor. They ran a red one because the dealer was only 4 miles from the home farm but now the only combine my cousin runs is an R65. He traded a 2166 for the R65 and he loves it. Way less repairs on all the Gleaners vs the red ones. One year he spent over $17,000 on the 1666 a dozen years ago The only time he spent any thing close to that amount on any of the Gleaners is when a sink hole opened up under the R65 a couple years ago and that still was less than $17,000.
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Originally posted by CORLEWFARM CORLEWFARM wrote:

I wonder during harvest how many are close to eletric to plug in? When were harvesting we are seldom near a plug

It has to be pretty cold that the Cummins won’t start.  When we had the Duetz powered one we frequently had to bring her home to put the torpedo heater in it to start.  Uncle had a 100-06 as a feeding tractor he tried everything to get it run.  I remember him using multiple magnetic heaters on the pan, a peel and stic heater, even remember him building a canvas tent over the motor with a heater under it.   Combine, cart tractor, and truck all are 8.3 Cummins and loving it.  
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The guy that used to haul my cattle and his brother and pa owned the AC dealership in Stewartville MN until the 80's crisis, he owned a 100-06 and milked cows in Minnesota winters and he said it was the best 100 hp tractor he had ever owned..... it was the only one in the area I had ever seen. It had a loader and did all the manure hauling and feed grinding. I thought it was the ugliest tractor I'd ever seen too!

My Cummins powered R52 has temperature sensing auto ether system too so I don't know how it would start in the cold without ether.
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