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DMiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 29840 |
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Posted: 26 Oct 2020 at 4:54pm |
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Seems is on the News EVERYWHERE, signs on a bus in Every major and many Minor city rural is seeing the issue where some drivers are running multiple routes.
Had a Epiphany on this. Cannot Scold a Child on the bus, Cannot discipline a child on a bus, Cannot yell Across the bus to get the little So fix the Buses, make them Bus Trailers!! Driver sits Impersonal, DETACHED and well away from ANY conflagration, can build these Lower to the ground so easier to access debark, Place a School Teacher inside the trailer as Chaperone over the children and use it for their Carpool ride to 'Save Money'!!
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allischalmerguy
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Deep River, IA Points: 2865 |
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I have thought about driving a school bus. I am retired. I think most people don't want to do it with the same reasons as me. The kids don't mind you and don't respect you. That is why I don't want to drive.
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It is great being a disciple of Jesus! 1950 WD, 1957 D17...retired in Iowa,
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plummerscarin
Orange Level Access Joined: 22 Jun 2015 Location: ia Points: 3203 |
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Guilty as charged. We never had a driver last more than a year. Yes we could have been better but I don't think was as bad as now. Several districts here are looking also and no I have no desire to be one.
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john(MI)
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: SE MI Points: 9263 |
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All around here are begging for drivers. Maybe they could just put in a sound proof cockpit? They are putting in an enclosure in the city busses due to the Covid, maybe could do something like that for school busses.
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jiminnd
Orange Level Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Location: Rutland ND Points: 2210 |
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Same here. I drove 40+ years ago ,was different then, you could discipline the kids then.
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jaybmiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Greensville,Ont Points: 21668 |
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same up here... HUGE responsiblity and LOUSY pay, 2$ more than min,no benefits, split shifts and oh yeah 30-40 'holy terrors' each trip...
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shameless dude
Orange Level Joined: 10 Apr 2017 Location: east NE Points: 13611 |
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around here they have cameras on the buses, anyone that's unruly just gets banned from the bus. that's when the parents take over like they are supposed to. our schools are also considering not having the buses anymore because of driver shortages.
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Coke
Silver Level Joined: 30 Sep 2018 Location: MIdwest Points: 215 |
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The early UK buses had the right idea, where the drivers cab is not part of the passenger compartment. Come to think of it, maybe the old driver / ticket collector is the way to go on school buses. Keep the driver away from the nonsense and employ a security guard of some kind to monitor the passenger compartment, even better, make the parents take turns at it. I'm the same as the rest of you, I'd do it, if it weren't for the kids. Edited by Coke - 27 Oct 2020 at 7:55am |
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Hubert (Ga)engine7
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Jackson Cnty,GA Points: 6154 |
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Won't say that there is NO WAY I would drive a school bus but it is highly unlikely. If one of the little brats gets hurt or anything else happens it is the driver's fault but yet he/she can not discipline the little crumb crunchers. And the parents know their little darling would never misbehave. When I was riding the bus the driver would take care of matters if I got out of line and then I would get my rear end tore up again when I got home.
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Just an old country boy saved by the grace of God.
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Thad in AR.
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Arkansas Points: 9306 |
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The bus drivers always made me ride on the entrance steps so they could keep an eye on me. Can they not do that anymore?
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Hubert (Ga)engine7
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Jackson Cnty,GA Points: 6154 |
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Not anymore. No one ahead of the yellow line. That way if a kid is standing in the aisle he/she gets a running start before going through the windshield if the bus driver has to slam on the brakes.
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Kansas99
Orange Level Access Joined: 26 Feb 2015 Location: W Kansas Points: 4810 |
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"That way if a kid is standing in the aisle he/she gets a running start
before going through the windshield if the bus driver has to slam on the
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"LET"S GO BRANDON!!"
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ac fleet
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jan 2014 Location: Arrowsmith, ILL Points: 2226 |
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good way to get sued by some dumb azzed parent for something you didnt do! -- saw it happen before! I did at one time consider the bus job,--school begged me to drive because they knew my driving record and how I drove in all kinds of weather BUT then came up the subject of the big monsters! ---- turned down the offer many times. They still bug me every year to drive, so I gave them a list of needs they would have to provide on the bus they wanted me to drive!--- that got them to slow down a bit, but not completely stop asking ---- they did agree to a few of my demands, one being a guard with authority riding, cameras on the bus, and 1 parent every day taking turns riding to see how radical these big kids are in todays world. --- I still say no and intend to keep it that way!
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DMiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 29840 |
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You are NOT a lone soldier there AC!!
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Dave in PA
Orange Level Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Mars/Wexford PA Points: 2616 |
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I considered doing it, in my local school district as well. The pay is good to start, increases very quick! Benefit package, with retirement, you can not beat! You work about 6 hours a day, pending the bus route, 185 + or- days a year, plus the extras once you get some time in for the field trips etc. And start out at a fairly good wage. The parents, the kids, ???
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allischalmerguy
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Deep River, IA Points: 2865 |
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Hubert-Same here. We got in trouble for cussing in mexican on the bus when I was a kid. The principal balled us out real good. Our parents were called. When we got home we got balled out real good AND our mouths washed out with soap! We got in worse trouble at home! |
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It is great being a disciple of Jesus! 1950 WD, 1957 D17...retired in Iowa,
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Lars(wi)
Orange Level Access Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Permian Basin Points: 6772 |
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Here, a sign is posted at the Midland TX (MISD) bus barn, advertising $22.00 hr. to start.
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I tried to follow the science, but it was not there. I then followed the money, and that’s where I found the science.
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PaulB
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Rocky Ridge Md Points: 4451 |
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The thing I can't understand is: Why do the counties even have School Busses? If you're anywhere near a school of any grade before or after classes there are miles of traffic jams with the soccer mommies hauling their little snot nosed brats that are too good to ride a bus. Most of the busses in line are less than half full. This was before the COVID thing.
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Stan IL&TN
Orange Level Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Elvis Land Points: 6730 |
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If there was a shortage of drivers before COVID, there sure is now. I would not want to be around a group of kids this year for sure.
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DMiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 29840 |
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Local Districts are having to double up bus runs, are starting runs earlier, and children getting home later.
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steve(ill)
Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: illinois Points: 78341 |
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With the WUHAN spiking up, the local schools are being PROactive and cancelling school middle of the month. Kids will all be home schooled till mid January... then guess again ?
No bus drivers needed here !
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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DougG
Orange Level Joined: 20 Sep 2009 Location: Mo Points: 7977 |
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See those - wanted bus drivers - all over central Mo, and now they says theres a shortage of trash truck drivers - and off coarse the bill went up - go figure that one
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DMiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 29840 |
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Some consider Trash Trucks beneath their dignity, pay is generally higher than normal truck service. Wrenched a great deal of Maggot Wagons and Honey Buckets over the years. Worst machines I ever thru a wrench or welder to were Dump Heavy Equipment, compactors, Dozers, that odor just never leaves once endured, strike a weld on a previous dump crawler, you will understand as that goo they worked in permeated the very steel.
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Dan Hauter
Orange Level Joined: 06 Feb 2011 Location: Carlinville, IL Points: 1223 |
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I drove school buses from 1979 to 1985. Enjoyed it for the most part. Got attached to some of the children. Could go back & do it again now that I'm retired but the core problem is that most parents don't teach children respect anymore and won't tolerate anyone else disciplining their little angels. Some parents just plain don't care about anything other than their boy/girlfriends, cigarettes, booze, and drugs. Other parents refuse to acknowledge that their children have any problems and get real angry when anyone else brings up their children's behavior problems. Yet, a minority of parents are really great. I applaud them!
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acjwb
Silver Level Joined: 28 Oct 2009 Location: WV Points: 302 |
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I have been driving school bus for 42 years. I have enjoyed it and most of the time had good kids. I have gotten to go to many interesting places taking them on trips. I am in WV and have went to Washington DC, Pittsburg PA, and many places in Ohio. Our pay is more than most states is and the retirement is good also. There are some of the big counties here that do not have enough drivers for all of the routes. I agree that the behavior of the students is not as good today as it was. A lot more paperwork today and making sure your cover your own a$$. I have had a great route for many years and park my bus at home. If my health was better, I would stay several more years, but I think this is my last year. Right now the kids are remote learning so we are running school lunches to the kids daily, so we still get paid. It has been a good life for me.
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