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BuckSkin ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2019 Location: Poor Farm Points: 643 |
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Considering the tracked loaders that in every other way resemble a rubber-tired skid-steer loader, is it proper to still call them a skid-steer loader ?
Do they skid around just like the tire-eating rubber-tired models; or, does one track go forward while the other goes backward - like a dozer ? I like to call a goat a goat and a sheep a sheep, but there seems to be a lot of grey area here. |
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DiyDave ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Gambrills, MD Points: 53242 |
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I call them rubber track loaders. I have an ASV-RC30. A little older than this one:
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jaybmiller ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Greensville,Ont Points: 24334 |
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'skid steer' to me is HOW the machine drives.... so a tank is a 'skid steer', as is an excavator... as they steer by skidding
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3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
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thendrix ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 Feb 2013 Location: Fairmount GA Points: 5010 |
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If you can afford tracks go with tracks. Better ride, MUCH better traction, way less ground pressure. If there's any way possible my next machine will be a track
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"Farming is a business that makes a Las Vegas craps table look like a regular paycheck" Ronald Reagan
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steve(ill) ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: illinois Points: 85458 |
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Dave, my son has a Bobcat T190 . About 7000 pounds and 60 HP.. It will do everything i see in your movie... What it has problem with is climbing a 45 degree slope for long distance. Seems the hydraulics run out... Is that normal or ?? Seems to work real good on the level or 20 degree slopes and in partial mud.
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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Tbone95 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 11964 |
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While linguistically accurate, that is not what it is to ~100% of farmers and construction workers in the USA. It's a specific machine. |
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fixer1958 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Feb 2010 Location: kansas Points: 2434 |
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I have a tire skid steer. Would rather have a tracked machine with pilot controls. Better ride and easier all around.
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Ray54 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Location: Paso Robles, Ca Points: 4659 |
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Dave is the ASV and pos track company still going? About 20 years ago they had a local dealer that sold some. From what I had heard the company had gone away and not many parts to keep them going. Or is this a successor company that is using the name and not supporting the old stuff?
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ac fleet ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 12 Jan 2014 Location: Arrowsmith, ILL Points: 2324 |
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Mine are tires and I wouldnt give you a dime for a trainload of rubber tracked ones!!! Tracks are expensive to replace, dont last long in hard use, and tear up everything worse than tires do,---neighbor found that out the hard way and went back to tires. guess it's whatever blows your skirt up as to what you prefer
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DMiller ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 33111 |
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When listed for sale come up as a CTL or Compact Track Loader and a few can come on steel tracks these days.
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BuckSkin ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2019 Location: Poor Farm Points: 643 |
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In my area, I would say that the ones on steel outnumber the rubber-tracked three to one. If these things eat tracks as quick as the tire ones eat tires, they could give you the machine and make a big profit selling replacement tracks. |
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DiyDave ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Gambrills, MD Points: 53242 |
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Ray, ASV went to crap, when they were owned by terex... Then they bought themselves out of that boondoggle, Back, better than ever. Mine is a early unit, pre terex involvement, 2500 hours or so, and not many problems. But when something breaks, its usually in the muddiest situation...
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jiminnd ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Location: Rutland ND Points: 2271 |
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I have a tired one, works for me, have driven tracked one and on hard ground I hated it, rough riding, vibrate bad, in soft ground was great.
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1945 C, 1949 WF and WD, 1981 185, 1982 8030, unknown D14(nonrunner)
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SteveM C/IL ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Shelbyville IL Points: 8467 |
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The little guys are "skid steers" with tires or tracks....the big guys(Cat Deere Kumatsu) etc are track loaders as opposed to rubber tired loaders
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Creek Jenkins ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Northern Minn Points: 812 |
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Yanmar bought ASV last year. They are made right up the road from me. Haven't heard much about what they are doing or if they are making changes.
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Have spacesuit, will travel
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Mactractor ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 20 Jun 2011 Location: New Zealand Points: 652 |
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Are Gehl still making them with Yanmar diesels, or are they too now owned by Yanmar?
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DiyDave ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Gambrills, MD Points: 53242 |
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DiyDave ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Gambrills, MD Points: 53242 |
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Hope they aren't ignoring the division, and trading off the name, terex tried it, didn't work out well...
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shameless dude ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Apr 2017 Location: east NE Points: 13607 |
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sold a machine today (not "the machine") and while loading it with my crane, we were talking about skidders, he said he has both, and likes the tracked one, he said it'll go anywhere without much damage to the ground as long as it's back and forth work, said if you turn with it, it'll tear the chit outta the ground/grass. about the same as a wheeled one.
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DMiller ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 33111 |
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Turns are what causes damage and tracks or tires, steel tracks on tires makes no difference when working, gonna make a mess to deal with later.
Edited by DMiller - 25 Jun 2020 at 5:48am |
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klinemar ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Michigan Points: 8045 |
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Tracked loader is not much different from a small dozen when turning. We had our Farm Bureau tire recycling days this week at the Fairgrounds. I hauled my wheeled skid loader there to help handle the tractor and trucks tires that came in. Skid loader worked great with forks picking the tires up to load in van semi trailers. The only problem was turning and leaving divots in the grass. Was much appreciated by the working volunteers!
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