8010 vs 8030

The advantages of a PS are fairly straight forward. If you need (or would like) to change speeds often in the field under load, PS is the berries. If you road with a heavy load, PS is nice as with a PD you have to take off in road gear (low PD, but still a lug). At least for a 7000 series you do, my info may be dated.

If you can live with picking a gear and sticking with it for a long time, or don't mind stopping to shift, save your $5k if the power of the 8010 is enough. PS or PD are both very good transmissions in an Allis.

I'd vote for the 8010.

Are you round baling or square?

8010 will do that job easily and save you fuel as said above. 301 is the best engine built by AC IMO.

All 8000 series are nice tractors - but have heard the 301, which I luv dearly , are sluggish in an 8010, as they weight alot more than a 185 or 190 and the Ambac fuel system wasnt as good as than Roosa , just what ive heard and i have no experience with them 

Good point Ed , there was more going on there with the MFWD

I run a 7020 with a pd on the baler on hills doesn’t have any problem both of those tractors will work just fine

Buy them both!
Darrel

Moneypit wrote: I run a 7020 with a pd on the baler on hills doesn’t have any problem both of those tractors will work just fine

With a 5x6? Just curious. The weight difference is surprisingly HUGE. Do the math and see.

Yes just keep the rpms up. I use this he foot control a lot

8030 2wd P/S is my round baling tractor and makes an awesome baling tractor.  Hesston 856 baler (5x6).  Have vermeer dealership in town and rented newer one several times.  Think 605M baler.  I ran that on 8030 and my White 105 and 105 seemed to be maxed out and sure pushed me around and pushed the temp guage higher.  8030 was much better tractor to handle that baler and i'm more hilly ground. Never had an 8010.   What do you use for a mower.  I run a vermeer disk mower. Power shift is awesome for that and can shift fast to slow real easy when coming to a ditch. Have a 7050 with P/D and rather have a P/S for baling.  I've used that one also in front of the baler, just prefer P/S. You'll like the 8030 cab, just make sure the A/C works good.  

My 82 year old dad still does it!

I know I want a 2wd.  Not doing much tillage work.  Just light disking of Coastal Bermuda fields.  This 8030 in Arizona looks interesting.   My only concern it was dueled.  Don't know if it was pulled hard.  It was a Arizona fish and game tractor.  Looking at flying over and having a look but not excited about getting on a plane right now.  Just not much orange in Texas.  I've never done a sight unseen purchase. https://www.tractorhouse.com/listings/farm-equipment/for-sale/21829605/1985-allis-chalmers-8030

The 426 engine and PS trans makes the better hay tractor. The low end power is provided by more displacement and you will notice this every time you stop and start forward motion. Big hay tools, high yields and high productivity expectations makes this a fact. You will never grind a gear switching from forward to reverse. The PS trans also shines on haulage work like moving bales spreading fertilizer or manure spreader work. I have a 7045 PD, a 7060 PS and a 190XT. If we put the 1034 stack wagon on the 190xt it gets along but the 7060 handles it like a breeze. The loaded wagon is over 12,000 and that is a lot to stop and start.  The 190xt with the hand clutch PD is neat to bale with especially on the older baler that wants the PTO shut off  (push in the clutch) to dump a bale.

DougG wrote: Bale kicker solves that problem

Still have to stop to wrap the bale.

I'm thinking they have had that 8030 on the lot since last year, maybe a lower offer for it would be in order.  The price seems too high for the hours, plus it's a 35 year old tractor.  I doubt if a green one of that vintage would bring that much.